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Start Date: Monday, December 6, 1971 9:01 PM

End Date: Monday, December 6, 1971 11:10 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Brennan, John V.Trudeau, Pierre E.White House photographerKissinger, Henry A.Head, Ivan

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:14:31

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:26:38

630-018.mp3

NARA Description:

On December 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John V. Brennan, Pierre E. Trudeau, White House photographer, Henry A. Kissinger, and Ivan Head met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:01 pm to 6:10 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 630-018 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 630-018
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
Date: December 6, 1971
Time: 4:01 pm - 6:10 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John V. (“Jack”) Brennan and Pierre E. Trudeau; an National
Broadcasting Company [NBC] film crew was present at the beginning of the meeting.
NBC film crew
-Greetings
-Photographs
-“A Day in the Life of the President”
-Dinner
-Canadians
Brennan and the NBC film crew left at 4:01 pm.
Trudeau's head of state visitors
-Josip Broz Tito
-People’s Republic of China [PRC] ambassador
The White House photographer and members of the press entered at an unknown time after 4:01
pm.
[General conversation]
Trudeau
-First state visitor
-Return visit
-Timing
Visiting press
-Gift
-Presidential pen
-Ronald L. Ziegler [?]
-Senators and Congressman
Trudeau
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-Majority
The White House photographers and members of the press left at an unknown time before 4:11
pm.
Trudeau visit
-Dinner
-Return visit
-Europeans
Henry A. Kissinger and Ivan Head entered at 4:11 pm.
San Clemente
-Talk with Kissinger
-Trudeau
Trudeau visit
-Basic consultation
-Trips abroad
-Meetings with British, French, Germans and the Japanese
-Trips
-War
India
-Indira Gandhi
-India-Pakistan war
US-Canadian relations
-Diplomacy
-[Forename unknown] Johnson and unknown person
-John B. Connally
-Group of Ten
-Financial meetings
-US and Canada
-Accomplishments
-Importance to American citizens
-Canada’s friendship with US
-Communication
-Trudeau's visit with Tito
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-Trudeau's relationship with PRC
-Press
-Relationship
-Connally's Asian trip
-Parliament
-Secretary of External Affairs
-Discussions with the Canadian Press
-Long range problem
-Relations between US and Canada
-Howard H. Baker, Jr. [?] spring visit
-Connally
-Forthcoming discussions with Trudeau
-Decisions
-Kissinger
-Trudeau meeting with Connally
-Connally
-Press reaction
-Economy
-US measures
-Importance of a sound US economy
-Benefits for Canada and the rest of the world
-Canadians
-Foreign investments
-Domestic control of the environment
-Energy policy
-Vital importance to US and Canada
-Trade
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]-North
-American Air Defense [NORAD]
-Effect on US
-US
-Trade balance with the world
-Deficit
-Canadian trade balance with the US
-Canadian balance of payments
-Deficit with the US
-Canadian dividend and interest payments
-Large amount of US capital
-European situation
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
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-Trade
-Interest compared to dividends
-Buying and selling
-Canada
-Living within their means
-Balance of trade
-Automobile tax
-Sale of natural resources
-Duration
-Surplus trade
-First time in Canadian history
-Interest payments
-Amount
-US capital
-Canadian industries
-Petrochemical industry
-Percentage of US capital
-Canadian standard of living
-Jobs
-US capital
-Technology
-Comparison to Latin America and Europe
-Trudeau’s view
-Export of US capital
-Surplus trade balance
-Canada’s wish
-Comparison to World War II
-Europeans
-Foreign capital investments
-Banking
-Canadian deficit to the US
-Concern by Canadians
-Nationalists
-Cuban comparison
-Canadian policy
-No drastic changes
-Differences between the US and Canada
-Possible US protectionist trend towards Canada
-Common market
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
-US protectionism
-World blocks
-Europeans
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Japan
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Free trade with the US and the rest of the world
-Percentage
-Question of cooperation
-European common market
-Canada’s role
-Future
-Possible loss of Canada’s political identity
-Canada’s influence on US markets
-Export of US capital
-Domination
-Justification
-Profits-investments
-Trade
-Investment relationships
-Closeness with Canada
-Canadian press
-US history
-Comparison with Canada
-British and French investments
-Possible scenario for Canada
-Mutual interests
-Nature of relationship
-Latin America
-National interests
-World War II
-US responsibility
-Economic
-August 15th decision
-Wage-price freeze
-Connally
-Reasons
-A strong US
-Vital for the world interests
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
-US international role
-Europe
-The President's meeting with labor leaders
-Canadian interest
-US internal issues
-Vietnam
-Inflation
-Unemployment
-Past history
-Cause for action
-International Economic Community [IEC]
-US
-Sound and responsible member
-Canada
-US relationship
-World trade
-Japan
-Europe
-Percentage sold to Canada
-Japan
-Customer to US
-Not as large as Canada
-International monetary system
-Europeans
-Possible re-evaluation
-Group of Ten meeting
-Canada
-Possible interests
-Multinational solution from Canada
-Connally
-Arrangement
-President’s consideration
-Possible Canadian criticism
-Trade
-Exchange rate issue
-No solution without Canadian participation
-US forthcomingness
-Canadian industry
-US ownership
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
-Possible Canadian skepticism
-US relationship
-Canada
-Situation similar to other countries
-Connally
-Realignment
-Kissinger press conference on PRC trip
-Europeans
-Accusations
-Old compared with new monetary system
-Possible benefits
-Negotiations
-Apparent difficulties [?]
-Connally
-Trade
-Japan
-Multilateral system
-Export market
-Connally
-Beneficial for Canada
-Balance of trade
-Supplier of natural resources
-Foreign capital investments
-Safe haven for US
-Multinational cooperation
-US-Canada cooperation
-Europeans
-Continued negotiation and cooperation
-Resolution of issues
-Recognizing differences
-Importance
-Connally
-Monetary issue
-Bilateral solution
-Connally meeting with the President [?]
-Canada compared with Europeans
-Possible power play
-Group of Ten
-Meeting
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Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
-Timing
-International Monetary Fund [IMF]
-Bilateral solutions
-August announcement
-Multilateral agreement
-Group of Ten meeting
-Solutions
-Canadian floating
-Pressure on the Canadians
-Connally
-Briefing by Kissinger
-Talk with Edgar J. Benson
-Canadian floating
-Rate
-Export trade issue
-Problems
-Percentage
-Connally
-Japan
-Markets
-Compared with Canada
-Trade
-Tariffs
-Buy and sell
-American protectionist attitude
-Industries in Canada
-Movement of industry
-Ability to sell to the US
-Numbers
-Investments
-Nationalists
-Socialists
-Criticism
-Jobs
-Potential loss of industry
-Temporary travel
-Balance of payments
-Auto pact
-Reassurance
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Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
-Temporary measures
-Long term goal
-Free trade
-President’s view
-Future
-Competitive positions
-Possible pitfalls
-Connally
-Latin America
-Manifest destiny
-George W. Ball's statements
-History
-Canada’s dependence on US
-Nixon doctrine
-US attitude
-Possible commitment to Canada
-Ball's statements
-Canadian capability
-Ball
-Multinational agreement
-American labor leaders
-Exports
-Possible assistance from US
-Technological developments
-Underdeveloped countries
-Foreign aid
-Multinational agreement
-Europe
-Latin America
-Philosophical approach
-No disagreements
-August announcement
-Lasting disagreements between US and Canada
-List of grievances
-Bilateral agreement
-August agreement
-Future view
-President’s view
-Common market
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Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
-British
-Germans
-French
-World stability
-USSR
-PRC
-Japan
-Effects
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[Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number
LPRN-T-MDR-2012-003 & LPRN-T-MDR-2014-009. Segment declassified on 10/27/2017.
Archivist: MAS]
[National Security]
[630-018-w001]
[Duration: 34m 27s]
India–Pakistan situation
-Sub-continent
-Effects of war
-Power play
-United Nations [UN] Security Council
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Conflict with People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Dividing
-Punishment of People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Indians–People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Pakistan–People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Nuclear war
-The President’s opinion
-India
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] aid
-Arms capability
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-US position
-US assistance program
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-East Pakistan
-Handling by and responsibility of Pakistan government
-Arms
-Agha Muhammad Yahya Khan
-The President’s opinion
-Differences between India and Pakistan
-Partition
-Leaders
-Issues
-Economic involvement
-Birth control
-War in 1965
-Repercussions
-United Nations [UN]
-People’s Republic of China [PRC] admitted
-Conflict with Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Refugees
-Aid
-East Pakistan
-Bangladesh
-Political autonomy
-Civilians
-Bangladesh negotiations
-War in 1965
-Difference
-Sovereign country
-International relief effort
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-United Nations [UN]
-Being used as cover
-Indian leaders
-Their standpoint
-[Unintelligible name]
-Problems with East and West Bengal
-East Bengal
-West Pakistan
-Indian interest
-Objective of war
-Can be accomplished by means other than war
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-Autonomy
-US aid
-Poverty
-Economy
-International observers
-Pakistan army
-West Pakistan
-Intelligence report
-Pakistani army
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Arbitration
-Politics
-US influence
-Treaties
-US provides $10 million
-Pakistan
-Effectiveness
-Aid cut-off
-March 1971
-1950's
-War
-Pakistan
-Attack
-Balance of power
-Arms cut-off
-Impact
-US policy toward the Middle East
-Attempt to maintain balance
-Israelis
-Anwar el-Sadat
-Arabs
-Negotiations
-US involvement with Israel
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]–United Arab
Republic [UAR]
-American political concerns
-US interest
-Arms cut-off
-Israeli leaders
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
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-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] arms
-Anwar el-Sadat
-US
-Negotiations with Egyptians
-Balance out Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Conflicts of interest
-Soft power
-Anwar el-Sadat
US–Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] relations
-Sovereignty of Asia problem
-Arab world
-Japanese
-Southeast Asia
-Improved since People’s Republic of China [PRC] initiative
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Trade
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Germany
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]–Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Relations with US
-Prospects
-US neutrality towards the two powers
-Meetings with the US
-Relations
-Aleksei N. Kosygin
-People’s Republic of China [PRC] influence in the Middle East
-Eastern Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Asians
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-History
-Treaties in 1800’s
-Communist philosophy
-Territorial alliances
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-US interests
-Usefulness of People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Reassurances to Asia
-Japan
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-People’s Republic of China [PRC] future
India–Pakistan issue
-Troubling to US
-US position
-Indian population
-American public opinion
-Intellectuals
-Pro-Indian
-Military action
-Justification
-Internal conditions
-United Nations [UN] delay
-General Assembly
-December 7, 1971
-Ceasefire
-Indira Gandhi
-Anwar el-Sadat
-Pakistan
-Indira Gandhi
-Last name and relation to philosophy of non-violence
-Meeting with the President
-Henry A. Kissinger’s opinion
-East Pakistan
-Pakistani ambassador
-Military action
-Indira Gandhi
-Previous meeting with the President
-The President’s analysis
-Henry A. Kissinger’s opinion
-Vietnam
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Trudeau
-Blair House
-Car
-Location
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-Ziegler
-Schedule
The President, et al. left at 6:10 pm.