Conversation: 621-043
Prev: 621-042 Next: 621-044Start Date: Monday, November 22, 1971 2:10 PM
End Date: Monday, November 22, 1971 3:22 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Kissinger, Henry A.; Goldwater, Barry M.Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:29:37
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:44:33
NARA Description:
On November 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, and Barry M. Goldwater met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:10 am to 10:22 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 621-043 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 621-43
Date: November 22, 1971
Time: 9:10 am - 10:22 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Charles W. Colson.
Colson's previous meeting
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Pay Board
-Peter G. Peterson
-Reaction to the President's speech to American Federation of Labor-Congress
of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO] convention
Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
-George H. Boldt
-The President's previous conversation with George P. Shultz
-George Meany
H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at an unknown time after 9:10 am.
Boldt
-William Proxmire
National economy
-The President's program
-Rumsfeld
-Boldt and C. Jackson Grayson
-Role
-Shultz
-Views
-Conversations with Colson
-Pay Board
-Meany
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
-Press coverage
-John B. Connally’s comments
-Meany
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Administration reaction
-Gerald R. Ford
-Ronald W. Reagan
-Cabinet
-Press coverage
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-High school students
-News summary
-Roger H. Mudd
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-The President's conversation with unknown man
-John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
-Stephen B. Bull
-Wire services
-National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
-The President’s opponents
-The media
-Meany, Hubert H. Humphrey and Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
Vietnam
-Military dispositions
-The President's previous conversation with Henry A. Kissinger
-Cambodia
-Press coverage
Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
-Press coverage
-The President’s appearance
-Shultz
-The President's intentions
-Administration response
-William E. Brock III and Ford
-Robert J. Dole
-Ford
-Press coverage
-The President's “Checkers” Speech in 1952
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 621-43 (cont.)
-White House response
-Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
-Connally's view
-The President's reaction
-Connally's forthcoming press conference
-Administration’s relations with labor
-The President's conversation with Connally
-Pay Board
-Shultz's views
-Krapow's [David Kraslow?] views
The President’s opponents
-Humphrey, Lawrence F. O'Brien, Jr. and Edmund S. Muskie
-Tactics
-Veracity
-White House response
-Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
-White House response
-The President's opponent's veracity
-"Big Lie" technique
-Adolph Hitler
-1948 campaign
-Harry S. Truman's veracity
-White House response
Kissinger's schedule
-Barry M. Goldwater
AFL-CIO convention
-Humphrey's telegram
-Content
-Muskie and Jackson
Colson
-Attacks by the President's opponents
-Murray M. Chotiner
Public relations
-Franklyn C. (“Lyn”) Nofziger
-Republican National Committee [RNC]
-Role
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 621-43 (cont.)
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-The President’s view
-Nofziger
-Relationship with Dole
Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
-Press coverage
-White House response
-Albert E. Sindlinger poll
-Frank J. Lausche's conversation with the President
-Press coverage
Kissinger entered at 9:29 am.
Goldwater
Kissinger left at 9:30 am.
Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
Kissinger and Goldwater entered at 9:31 am.
Congress
-Senate
-Goldwater
-Ford
-Goldwater
-Colson's view
Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
-Meany
-Public reaction
-Response
-Senate
-Cabinet
-Connally
-Goldwater
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 621-43 (cont.)
-Attendance at Cowboys reception
-Meany’s daughter
-Congressional response
-Dole, John G. Tower, Peter H. Dominick, Brock, Howard H. Baker, Jr. and
Hugh Scott
Campaign finance legislation
-Goldwater’s view
-Theodore Roosevelt
-Possible veto
John F. Kennedy-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr. Labor Bill
-Goldwater
-Vote
-Conversation with Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Analogy to current campaign finance legislation
Vietnam
-Casualties
-Opponents of the President's policy
-As issue
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Lyndon B. Johnson's bombing policy
-Michael J. Mansfield Amendment
-The President's possible speech
-Public reaction
National defense
-Goldwater's conversation with Melvin R. Laird
-Defense budget
-The President's efforts
-Weapons systems
-Multiple Independent Re-entry Vehicles [MIRVs]
-Aircraft
-B-1, F-14, F-15
Conservatives
-Reagan group
-Goldwater's possible efforts
Amchitka test
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 621-43 (cont.)
-Telegrams to White House
-Environmentalists
-Supreme Court
-The President's conversation with Kissinger
-Reasoning
-Anti-ballistic missiles [ABMs]
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Conservatives' reaction
-Goldwater
-William F. Buckley, Jr.
Conservatives
-Attacks on the President
-Human Events
-Defense
-PRC
-Domestic policy
-Supreme Court nominees
-Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
-James J. Kilpatrick, Jr.
-The President's efforts for national defense
-ABMs and MIRVs
-The President's conversation with Reagan
-Goldwater's previous conversation with Buckley
-Buckley, Goldwater, Franck Lausche, and Dean Manning [sp?]
-Board membership
-Support for the President
-Possible attacks
-Meany
-Humphrey, Muskie, George S. McGovern, Edward M. Kennedy
-Eisenhower's presidency
-1960 election
-Possible attacks by Republicans
-Charles H. Percy, Jacob K. Javits and James B. Pearson
-James L. Buckley, Brock, Baker and Paul J. Fannin
-Goldwater
-Publicity
-Washington Post
-Human Events
-Buckley
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 621-43 (cont.)
Thomas G. Wicker
Theodore Roosevelt
Kissinger and Goldwater left at 9:46 am.
Conservatives
-Senators
-Possible attacks on the President's opponents
-Dole
-The President’s view
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 16s ]
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White House staff
-Congressional relations
-Bryce N. Harlow and Clark MacGregor
-Colson
-Cabinet
-George H. W. Bush and Elliot L. Richardson
Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
-Popular reaction
-Wire service reports
-Sindlinger poll
-Meany's daughter
Meany
-Possible White House Response
-Wire service report
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 621-43 (cont.)
-Horse race in Miami
-Actions
-White House response
-1972 election
-Possible White House response
-James D. Hodgson
-Pay raise issue
-Meany’s salary increase
-The President’s salary
-Congressional action
-The President's possible action
-John D. Ehrlichman's view
-Meany’s position
-White House response
-Possible White House attacks
-Meany’s salary and benefits
-Limousine
-Cigars
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 17s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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-Possible photograph
-Colson’s efforts
Photographers
Public relations
-The President’s previous meeting with students
-Press coverage
-CBS
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 621-43 (cont.)
-Jo Anne Haldeman's views
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 25s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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Public relations
-Colson and staff
-Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin's staff
-News summary
-CBS
-Lausche and George D. Aiken
Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
-Meany
-Effect
-Victor Riesel
-Actions
-Press coverage
-Associated Press [AP] story
-Frank Cormier
-Possible effect
-The President's economic program
-Shultz, Connally and Rumsfeld
-Ehrlichman
-Shultz, Rumsfeld and Connally
-Polls
Kissinger entered at an unknown time after 9:46 am.
Kissinger's schedule
-Forthcoming meeting with PRC officials
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 621-43 (cont.)
-Location
-Helms
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Logistics
Kissinger left at an unknown time before 10:22 am.
The President's opponents
-White House public relations efforts
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 19s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
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-White House efforts
Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
-Popular opinion
-Connally's view
-Shultz, Connally, Rumsfeld, Colson, and Haldeman
-Pay Board
-Meany
-Shultz
Earl L. Butz
-Confirmation
-Aiken's call to the President
-Possible vote
-Harlow
-Jack R. Miller's previous meeting with Butz
-Role with administration
-Senators' views
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 621-43 (cont.)
-Previous conversation with MacGregor
-White House support
-MacGregor's previous conversation with Miller
-Confirmation
-Miller
-The President’s view
-White House support
-Forthcoming vote
-Possible White House action
-Alternate candidates
-Harlow
-Conversation with John C. Whitaker
-Louie B. Nunn
-John A. Love
-Henry L. Bellmon
-Harlow’s view
-Laird
-Experience
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 4s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
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-Search for candidates
-Donald E. Johnson
-Possible confirmation
-Relations with Miller
-Robert D. Ray
-Miller's efforts
-White House position
-Soviet Union grain shipments
-White House support
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 621-43 (cont.)
-MacGregor
John N. Mitchell
-Tenure in office
-Richard G. Kleindienst
Connally
Shultz
Connally
Kissinger
Colson and Haldeman left at 10:22 am.