Conversation: 563-006
Prev: 563-005 Next: 563-007Start Date: Friday, August 13, 1971 4:29 PM
End Date: Friday, August 13, 1971 5:45 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Woods, Rose Mary; White House operator; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Kissinger, Henry A.; Bull, Stephen B.; Sanchez, Manolo; Mitchell, John N.; Ehrlichman, John D.; Shultz, George P.; Morgan, Edward L.; Kehrli, Bruce A.Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:19:59
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:37:45
NARA Description:
On August 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Rose Mary Woods, White House operator, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Stephen B. Bull, Manolo Sanchez, John N. Mitchell, John D. Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz, Edward L. Morgan, and Bruce A. Kehrli met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:29 pm to 1:45 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 563-006 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 563-6
Date: August 13, 1971
Time: 12:29 pm - 1:45 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
President’s schedule
-Photograph session
Butterfield left at 12:30 pm.
President's schedule
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Photograph session
-Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
-Press photographers
-Atkins
Rose Mary Woods entered at 12:30 pm.
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The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:30 pm and
12:32 pm.
[Conversation No. 563-6A]
[See Conversation No. 7-113]
[End of telephone conversation]
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[The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon between 12:32 pm and 12:33 pm]
[Conversation No. 563-3B]
[See Conversation No. 7-114; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]
[End of telephone conversation]
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Jouett Shouse
Wolf Trap
-Performance
-Dinner in 1970 in Los Angeles
-Dorothy Chandler
-Fire
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Woods left at 12:37 pm.
President's schedule
-John N. Mitchell, George P. Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman, Edward L. Morgan
George C. Wallace
President’s schedule
-Camp David
-Mrs. Nixon
-Aspen Lodge
-Birch Lodge
White House summer interns
-Henry A. Kissinger
Kissinger entered at 12:39 pm.
President’s schedule
President's previous National Security Council [NSC] meeting
-Forthcoming meeting
Stephen B. Bull entered and left at 12:39 pm.
President's schedule
-Service secretaries
-Melvin R. Laird
President's previous NSC meeting
-US military dispositions in Pacific
-Laird's views
-Budget
-Air wings
India-Pakistan
-Robert S. McNamara's call to Kissinger, August 13, 1971
-East Pakistan
-Famine
-Refugees
-Indians
-Edward M. Kennedy's possible action
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Conv. No. 563-6 (cont.)
-McGeorge Bundy's call to Kissinger, August 13, 1971
-Relief effort
-Kennedy
-William D. Eberle
-Role With Administration
-Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development [OECD]
-Peter G. Peterson
-Us Relief Effort
-Roy L. Ash
-James A. Perkins
-Cornell University
-William P. Rogers
President's schedule
-Camp David
-Peterson
-Forthcoming speech on economic program, August 16, 1971
-Content
-Closing gold window
-Import tax
-General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade [GATT]
An unknown person [Manolo Sanchez?] entered at an unknown time after 12: 34 pm.
National economy
-President's forthcoming program
-Gold window
-Import tax, wage-price freeze
-Purpose
-Japan
The unknown person [Sanchez?] left at an unknown time before 12:46 pm.
-Textiles
-Peterson's memo
-Staff recommendations
-Ehrlichman
-Peterson
-Peter Flanigan
-Relevancy
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Kissinger's previous meeting with conservative columnists
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-People's Republic of China [PRC]
-National defense
-Taxes
-Anti-ballistic missile [ABM]
Kissinger's schedule
Kissinger left and Mitchell, Ehrlichman, Morgan and Shultz entered at 12:46 pm.
Busing
-Columbia, South Carolina
-School board's plan
-Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
-Vote
-Additional busing
-Reasons
-Population
-Law
-HEW
-Swan case
-Community reaction
-Press reaction
-National Association for the Advancement of Colored People [NAACP]
-Possible administration policy
-Confrontation with courts
-Compared with low profile approach
-Austin, Texas
-Appeal
-Columbia
-Compliance with law
-Speech
-President’s view
-Columbia
-Possible NAACP action
-HEW
-Possible news leak
-Litigation against Elliot L. Richardson and J. Stanley Pottinger
-Publicity
-Columbia plan
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Conv. No. 563-6 (cont.)
-Possible HEW response
-Letter
-Standards
-Dallas, Texas plan
-Austin, Corpus Christi
-Dallas plan
-President's schedule
-Nashville
-Mitchell's conversation with Howard H. Baker, Jr. August 12, 1971
-Candidate for mayor
-Administration policy
-George C. Wallace
-1972 campaign
-George S. McGovern, Eugene J. McCarthy, John V. Lindsay
-Possible constitutional amendment
-Timing
-Baker
-Ehrlichman's conversation with William E. Timmons
-Wallace
-McCarthy
-Daughter
Music studies
-Administration policy
-Ziegler's press briefings
-Civil Rights Commission
-Theodore S. Hesburgh
-Liberals
-Compliance with law
-Austin case
-School districts' plans
-Austin case
-Changes
-Content
-Minimal busing
-Administration's policy
-Controlling bureaucracy
-HEW
-Letter
-Morgan
-Austin case
-Sen. John G. Tower, John B. Connally
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Conv. No. 563-6 (cont.)
-South
-Morgan
Morgan
-Barry M. Goldwater
Mitchell and Morgan left at 1:02 pm.
National economy
-Meeting
-President's forthcoming program
Busing
-Lawyers' meeting in Florida
-Morgan's schedule
-Justice Department's knowledge
-Popular opinion
-Liberal commentators
-Austin
Ehrlichman left at 1:03 pm.
National economy
-Arthur F. Burns
-Peterson
-Paul W. McCracken
-Connally
-Recommendations
-President's forthcoming meeting
-Agenda
-Textiles
-Peterson's memo
-Export rebate
-GATT
-Subsidy
-Export-Import [EX-Im] Bank bill
-President's forthcoming program
-Peterson's views
-Border tax, export subsidy
-Import tax
-Legal opinion
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Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 563-6 (cont.)
-GATT
-National security clause
-Trading with the Enemy Act
-Trade Act of 1962
-GATT
-Preparation
-Import tax
-Trade Act of 1962
-Congress
-Department of the Treasury
-National security clause
-Treasury
-Trading with the Enemy Act
-Mitchell
-GATT
-Congress
-Wage and price freeze
-Application
-Follow-up
-Preparation
-Herbert Stein
-Need for analysis
-Intellectuals
-Critics
-Investment tax credit
-Possible name
-Employment Tax Act
-Department of the Treasury
-Business
-Excise tax
-Congress
-President’s proposal
-Budget
-[Investment tax credit and repeal of excise tax]
-“Moving-up” costs
-Tax exemptions
-Popular opinion
-Psychological effect
-Monetary policy
-Federal budget
-Congress
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Conv. No. 563-6 (cont.)
-Wilbur D. Mills's possible action
-Taxes
-Politics
-Wage and price freeze
-Job development credit
-Congress
-Amendment
-Mills
-Effect on consumers
-Administration action
-Business
-Tax bills
-Excise tax
-Congress
-Possible reductions
-Effect on budget
-Import tax
-Textiles
-Import tax
-GATT
-Wage and price freeze
-Efficacy
-Follow-up
-Wage and price board
-Bethlehem Steel
-Action on prices
-Compared to other companies
-Automobile industry
-President's forthcoming program
-Preparation
-Budget
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Wage and price freeze
-Arnold R. Weber
-Forthcoming meeting
-Peterson, Paul A. Volcker, Stein
-Kenneth W. Dam
-Ehrlichman, William L. Safire
-Dam
-Roles of Ehrlichman and Safire
-Safire
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Conv. No. 563-6 (cont.)
-Public relations
-Wage and price board
-Burns's role
-Forthcoming meeting
-Camp David room assignments
-Dogwood Lodge
-Shultz and Burns
-Connally and Volcker
-Shultz
-Burns
-Burns and Peterson
-Accommodations
-Shultz
-Weinberger
-Dam
-Ehrlichman
-Maple Lodge
-Burns
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
-Accommodations
-Location
-Aspen Lodge
-Laurel Lodge
-Preparation
-Connally's views
-Agenda
-Peterson
-Japan
-Burns
-Gold
-Purpose
-Decision-making
-Assignments
-Wage and price freeze
-Shultz
-Burns
-Budget
-Shultz
-Taxes
-Connally
-Import tax
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Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 563-6 (cont.)
-Peterson
-Connally
-Shultz
-Dam
-Gold window
-Wage and price freeze
-Purpose
-Psychological lift
-Textiles
-Impact
-Preparation
-Compared to foreign policy field
-State Department
-Defense Department
-Headlines
-Politics
-Connally, Volcker, Stein, McCracken, Peterson
-Stein
-Burns
-Monetary system
-Volcker
-Stein
-Wage and price board
-Public Service Employment Bill
-Public Service Employment Bill
-Implementation
-Ehrlichman
-Weinberger's role
-Local government
-Spending money
-President's forthcoming meeting
-Quadriad
Shultz left at 1:35 pm.
Haldeman talked with Bruce A. Kehrli at an unknown time between 1:35 pm and 1:45 pm.
[Conversation No. 563-6C]
Camp David cabin assignments
-Lawrence M. Higby
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[End of telephone conversation]
President’s schedule
-Conversation with unknown woman
-Forthcoming meeting
President's speeches
-President's forthcoming speeches
-Preparation
-Ehrlichman
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Shepard's speeches
-President's conversation with Price
-Price
-Knights of Columbus
-Shepard's style
-President’s note
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Importance
-Preparation
-President's schedule
-Importance
-Television
-Religious content
-Knights of Columbus
-Price
National economy
-President's forthcoming program
-Preparation
-Forthcoming meeting
-Camp David
-Work
-Telephone calls
-Possible leaks
-Burns, Peterson
-Timing of President's speech, August 16, 1971
President's speeches
-Preparation
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Conv. No. 563-6 (cont.)
-Safire
-Style
-Herbert G. Klein
-Safire
National economy
-President's forthcoming program
-President's speech
-Length
-Details
-Briefings
-Connally
-Timing
-Announcement
-Length
-Price
-1968 campaign
-Timing
-Possible press commentary
-Timing
Kehrli [?] talked with Haldeman at an unknown time between 1:35 pm and 1:45 pm.
[Conversation No. 563-6D]
Room assignment at Camp David
[End of telephone conversation]
Haldeman left at 1:45 pm.