Conversation No. 498-015
Date: May 13, 1971
Time: 3:40 pm - 4:27 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
The President's schedule
-James M. Roche
-Individuals
-Groups
Roche
The President's schedule
-Individuals
-Groups
Supersonic Transport [SST]
-Gerald R. Ford
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-William M. Magruder
-Work in Senate
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[Privacy]
[498-015-w001]
[Duration: 18s]
The President talked with J. Glenn Beall, Jr. between 3:43 pm and 3:44 pm
[Begin telephone conversation]
[Conversation No. 498-15A]
[See Conversation No. 003-045]
[End of telephone conversation]
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SST
-Ford
-Senate
-Magruder's title
[The President talked with the White House operator at 3:46 pm]
[Conversation No. 498-15B]
[See Conversation No. 3-46]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Magruder's location
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-St. Croix
SST
-Forthcoming Senate vote
[The President talked with the White House operator at 3:46 pm]
[Conversation No. 498-15C]
[See Conversation No. 3-47]
[End of telephone conversation]
Magruder
-Location
-White House operator
-John D. Ehrlichman
Ehrlichman
-Meeting with John N. Mitchell
[Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 3:46 pm and 3:47 pm]
[Conversation No. 498-15D]
Ehrlichman's schedule
[End of telephone conversation]
[The President talked with Clark MacGregor between 3:47 pm and 3:48 pm]
[Conversation No. 498-15E]
[See Conversation No. 3-48]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President's schedule
-Forthcoming meeting with Edward W. Brooke
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-Henry A. Kissinger
-MacGregor
-Charles W. Colson
-MacGregor
-Kissinger
-Colson
John D. Ehrlichman entered at 3:49 pm
National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
-Apollo program
-A meeting, May 12, 1971
-Budget
-Nuclear Engine for Rocket Vehicle Application [NERVA]
-Space shuttle
-Priorities
-Apollo program
-Research and development
-Funds, mission, name
MacGregor entered at 3:50 pm
SST
-The President's previous attempt to call Magruder
-The President's conversation with John B. Connally
-Connally's forthcoming conversations
-John V. Tunney, Alan Cranston, David H. Gambrell, Clinton P.
Anderson, unknown Floridan [Lawton M. Chiles, Jr.?], Lloyd
Bentsen
-Gambrell's views
-The President's conversation with George Meany, May 12, 1971
-Meany's location
-Forthcoming Senate vote
-Lockheed
-Connally
-Boeing
-Daniel J. Evans
-Ehrlichman's attempted meeting with chairman, May 12, 1971
-Jobs, profits
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[Duration: 2m 34s]
John B. Connally talked with the President between 3:52 pm and 3:53 pm
[Begin telephone conversation]
[Conversation No. 498-15F]
[See Conversation No. 003-049]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, and Clark MacGregor.
The President’s telephone conversation with John B. Connally
-Texas gubernatorial race
-Ben F. Barnes as possible candidate
-Preston Smith
-President’s opinion
-H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s opinion
-Impact of Ben F. Barnes as possible candidate
-Peter O’Donnell
-John G. Tower
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SST
-Forthcoming Senate vote
-Republicans
-Issue
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-The President's conversation with James L. Buckley
-Environment
-Clifford P. Hansen, Jack P. Miller, Winston L. Prouty, Lowell P. Weicker, Jr.
-The President's conversation with Hansen
-Miller
-The President's conversation with Hansen
-Costs of termination
-Effect in House
-Lockheed
-Boeing
-Magruder's conversations
-Thornton ("T.") Wilson
-Lowell Mickelwait
-Statement after House vote
-Evans' statement
-Jobs
-Efforts of Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson and Warren G. (“Maggie”) Magnuson
-Ehrlichman's forthcoming call to Evans
-Forthcoming Senate vote
-Boeing
-Termination costs
-Magruder's agreement with Wilson
-Unemployment in Seattle
-Newspapers position
-Timing
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield, Hugh Scott
-William Proxmire's view
-Senators
-Popular opinion
-Effect on Senators
-Considerations
-Senate Appropriations Committee action
U.S. troops in Europe
-Mansfield's view
SST
-Forthcoming Senate vote
-Business Council's possible actions
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-Ehrlichman's forthcoming call to Peter M. Flanigan
-Telegrams
-Meetings at Hot Springs
-Roche
-Labor's possible action
-Colson
-Meany
-Telegrams from labor
-Lockheed
-Future
-Connally
-Magruder’s role
-MacGregor's forthcoming meeting with Connally
-Connally
-Commitments by senators
-Hansen's experience
Forthcoming Senate vote
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-Situation
-George W. Ball
SST
-Forthcoming Senate vote
-Commitments
-Buckley
-Bentsen
-Connally's efforts
Forthcoming Senate vote on NATO
-MacGregor's efforts
-NATO council statement distribution
-Mutual and Balanced Force Reduction [MBFR]
-European efforts
-Spending
-MBFR
-Compare to Vietnam War
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-MacGregor's schedule
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-Possible meeting with Ford
-Lunch
-List of Senators
-Copies
-Mansfield Amendment [?]
-A meeting
-Ball
-List of senators
MacGregor left at 4:11 pm
Connally's schedule
-European trip
-Possible May 25, 1971 briefing in Birmingham, Alabama
-Reorganization
-European trip
-Possible Alabama briefing
-Paul W. McCracken
-Ehrlichman
-George W. Romney, Elliot L. Richardson, Robert H. Finch, Donald H.
Rumsfeld
-Mitchell
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Florida trip
-Lyndon B. Johnson Library trip with the President
-Florida trip
-Connally
-Idanell B. (“Nellie”) Connally
-Accommodations
-Possible Alabama briefing
-Congressional testimony
The President's schedule
-Florida trip
-George A. Smathers
-Johnson Library trip
Connally
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
The President's schedule
-Florida
-Possible press announcements
-Johnson Library
-Florida
-Possible press announcements, radio address
-Red Cross
-Interview with ten business magazines
-Maurice H. Stans dinner
Fortune magazine
-Forthcoming article on George P. Shultz
-Arthur F. Burns
-Interview with Time magazine reporter
-Shultz's meeting with businessmen in New York City
-Shultz
Burns
International monetary situation
-Burns
-Connally
-Paul A. Volcker
Shultz
-Forthcoming Fortune article
-Burns
-Motives
Connally
-Internal Revenue Service [IRS] investigation of unknown
people's income tax returns
-John S. Nolan's appointment
H. Ross Perot
-Bargain with administration over third largest brokerage house
New IRS head
-Johnnie M. Walters
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-Mitchell
-Nolan
-Roger Bersh [?]
-Views regarding Nolan
-Edwin S. Cohen
-Walters
-Ehrlichman's forthcoming conversation with Mitchell
-Requirements
-Investigations
-Nolan
-Ronald W. Reagan in California
-John J. Rhodes
-Democrats
-Law
-The President's experience
-Kennedy [John F. or Robert F.?]
-Finch
-Requirements
-Walters
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Kleindienst
International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
-Kleindienst's deal regarding anti-trust action
-ITT and Hartford
-ITT and Grinnell
-Timing
-Harold S. Geneen
-Possible campaign contribution
-Kleindienst's contact on ITT board
-Herbert W. Kalmbach
-Possible campaign finance law
-Effect
SST
-Ford's efforts in House
-Importance
-Jobs
-Termination costs
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-Boeing
-Possible future administration action
-Magruder
-Location
-Virgin Islands
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[Privacy]
[498-015-w004]
[Duration: 17s]
Supersonic transport [SST]
-Jeb Stuart Magruder
-Gall bladder surgery
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Connally's schedule
-Possible Alabama briefing, meeting with the President, congressional testimony
Haldeman and Ehrlichman left at 4:27 pm