Conversation: 472-003
Prev: 472-002 Next: 472-004Start Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1971 2:56 PM
End Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1971 3:15 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Scott, Hugh; Ford, Gerald R.; Ziegler, Ronald L.; MacGregor, ClarkRecording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:11:24
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:27:04
NARA Description:
On March 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Clark MacGregor met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:56 am to 10:15 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 472-003 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 472-3
Date: March 23, 1971
Time: 9:56 am - 10:15 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Clark MacGregor
[Recording begins while the conversation is in progress]
Supersonic Transport [SST]
-Soviet airplanes
-Importance
-Great Britain
-Soviet Union
-Export sales
-Japan, India
-House and Senate action
-House vote
-Ford
-Forthcoming Senate vote
-Scott’s assistance
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Letter to George Meany
-Forthcoming Senate vote
-Peter H. Dominick
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Ford’s concerns
-Votes
-Dominick
-James L. Buckley
-Margaret Chase Smith
-Pat [Surname unknown]
-An unknown Senator
-Congressman Conv. No. 472-3 (cont.)
-Ford’s statement at Republican meeting
-Results
-Democrats
-Southern Democrats
-Robert J. Dole’s efforts
-Future action
-Possible effect on jobs
-Space shuttle
-Exploration of Mars
-Previous Republican leaders’ meeting
-Ford’s view
-US role
Vietnam
-Laos operation (Lam Son)
-Possible responses for press
-President’s previous interview with Howard K. Smith
-Defense Department briefings
-President’s previous interview
-Cambodian operation
-US troop withdrawals
-Effect
-Vietnamization
-Effect of operation
-Public opinion
-Casualties
-North Vietnamese, South Vietnamese
-Effect on US troops
-Possible response for press
-Effect
-Casualties
-General Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
-Future
-Compared with Cambodia
5
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Photographs
-Distortions
-Casualties
-Photographs
-Coverage
-Abrams
-Effect
-US troop withdrawals Conv. No. 472-3 (cont.)
-Vietnamization policy
-Casualties
-Compared with Cambodian operation
-Goals
-Compared with Cambodian operation
-Withdrawals, casualties, Vietnamization
-Army of the Republic of Vietnam [ARVN] withdrawal
-Possible responses to press
-Hanoi Radio claim
-Abrams’ comments
-President’s actions
-Casualties
-Effect of action
Ford and Scott’s work
-Ford’s schedule
-A breakfast with the President
-Texas trip
President’s schedule
-Breakfast with Ford, Carl B. Albert, and [Thomas] Hale Boggs
-Leslie C. Arends
-Thomas P. (“Tip”) O’Neill, Jr.
-William E. Timmons
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield and Robert C. Byrd
-Robert P. Griffin and Scott
-Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
-Griffin, Byrd
-Mansfield
-Forthcoming California trip
-Meeting with Mansfield, Byrd, Griffin, and Scott
6
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
SST
-Forthcoming Senate vote
-Byrd or Griffin
-Possible outcome of vote
-Tally
-Dominick
-Possible position
Conv. No. 472-3 (cont.)
Scott, et al. left at 10:14 am; MacGregor remained
Milk producers
-President’s meeting with Albert H. Quie
-Milk price supports
-Possible Congressional action
-President’s position
-Possible statement
Congress
-John B. Connally
-SST
-Effect of polls
-SST vote
MacGregor left at 10:15 am