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Start Date: Thursday, February 25, 1971 9:42 PM

End Date: Thursday, February 25, 1971 10:05 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Rose, Milton C.Sanchez, ManoloBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:56:38

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:19:16

458-009.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 25, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Milton C. Rose, Manolo Sanchez, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:42 pm to 5:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 458-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 458-009
Date: February 25, 1971
Time: 4:42 pm - 5:05 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Milton C. Rose
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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 04/16/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[458-009-w001]
[Duration: 12m 22s]
Greetings
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
Patrick J. Lucey
-President’s opinion
-Business for Mudge, Rose, Guthrie, & Alexander
-President and John N. Mitchell’s interest in firm
Mudge, Rose, Guthrie & Alexander
-Richard S. Ritzel
-Addition to firm
Milton C. Rose’s health
Robert Guthrie
-Crash diets
-Lifestyle
-Similarity to Richard S. Ritzel
-Milton C. Rose’s recent breakfast with Robert Guthrie
-Size of breakfast
-Law firm
-Employees
-The President's old office
Elmer H. Bobst and Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst's wills
-Executors
-Need to be changed
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:34 pm
Refreshments
-Tea
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:05 pm
Elmer H. Bobst and Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst's wills
-Cash legacies
-To President and Milton C. Rose
-Executors
-President, Milton C. Rose and Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst
-[unknown first name] Irving trust
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
-Corporate executor
-Alfred E. Driscoll
-Executor
-Elmer H. Bobst
-Potential long life
-Instructions
-Legal points
-Conditions of will
-President’s legacy
-Publicity
-Potential embarrassment
-Legacy to Nixon Foundation
-Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst’s will
-Surviving spouse
-Named President and Milton C. Rose as executors
-Elmer H. Bobst and Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst’s Foundation
-Structure
-Incorporated under laws of New York
-Active upon Elmer H. Bobst’s death
-Legacy upon Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst’s death
-The President's involvement
-Potential role as director
-Nonprofit corporation law in New York
-Amendment of by-laws
-The President’s involvement
-Waivers
-Quorum
-Publicity
-President’s meeting with [first unknown name] Salvatore [?]
-Potential questions about Foundation
-Press attention on Elmer H. Bobst
-Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst performance
-President’s previous conversation with Elmer H. Bobst
Elmer H. Bobst
-Health
-President’s opinion
-Milton C. Rose’s previous visit
-Early February 1971
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
-Palm Beach
-Lunch
-Elmer H. Bobst’s trip to New York
-Throat surgery
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Cancer program
-Administration’s program
-Elmer H. Bobst
-Possible appointment
-Research
-Bobst
-The President’s schedule
-Possible visit
-Communications
-United States’ Secret Service
-Previous visit to Nelson A. Rockefeller’s house
-Logistics
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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 04/16/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
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[458-009-w002]
[Duration: 1m 57s]
Bill Tynan
-Recent visit to White House
-Reception
-Business leaders
Milton C. Rose’s friend Mrs. [first unknown name] Rogers [?]
-Asked after President
Milton C. Rose’s visits to unnamed lakes [Finger Lakes?]
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
-Encounter with President
-Tenth anniversary of unnamed event
-Heat
Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Margaretta (Fitler) (“Happy”) Rockefeller
-President’s previous assistance
-Visit to the White House February 23 1971
-Governors’ conference
President’s departure from Mudge, Rose, Guthrie & Alexander
-John N. Mitchell
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Personnel
-Leonard Garment
-Role
-Minorities
-Arts
-Civil rights
Forthcoming White House ceremony
-John Quincy Adams’ portrait
-Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s role
-Attendees
-Descendants of Adams
-Presentation
-James Monroe’s portrait
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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 04/16/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[458-009-w003]
[Duration: 26s]
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
Elmer H. Bobst’s trust
-Assets
-Antiques magazine
-Wendell Garrett
-Editor-in-chief
Milton C. Rose
-Interest in art
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Forthcoming White House ceremony
-Rose’s possible attendance
-Rose’s previous visit
White House portraits
-Dolley P. T. Madison
-John F. Kennedy
-Jacqueline Lee Bouvier Kennedy Onassis
-Kennedy
-Andrew Wyeth
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:34 pm
The President’s schedule
-Invitation to Rose
-White House ceremony
Bull left at an unknown time before 5:05 pm
Rose’s schedule
Presentation of gifts by the President
-Donald McI. Kendall
[General conversation]
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
Rose left at 5:05 pm