Conversation: 458-009
Prev: 458-008 Next: 458-010Start Date: Thursday, February 25, 1971 9:42 PM
End Date: Thursday, February 25, 1971 10:05 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rose, Milton C.; Sanchez, Manolo; Bull, Stephen B.Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:56:38
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:19:16
NARA Description:
On February 25, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Milton C. Rose, Manolo Sanchez, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:42 pm to 5:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 458-009 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 458-009 Date: February 25, 1971 Time: 4:42 pm - 5:05 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with Milton C. Rose ****************************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 04/16/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [458-009-w001] [Duration: 12m 22s] Greetings Page | 10 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 Patrick J. Lucey -President’s opinion -Business for Mudge, Rose, Guthrie, & Alexander -President and John N. Mitchell’s interest in firm Mudge, Rose, Guthrie & Alexander -Richard S. Ritzel -Addition to firm Milton C. Rose’s health Robert Guthrie -Crash diets -Lifestyle -Similarity to Richard S. Ritzel -Milton C. Rose’s recent breakfast with Robert Guthrie -Size of breakfast -Law firm -Employees -The President's old office Elmer H. Bobst and Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst's wills -Executors -Need to be changed Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:34 pm Refreshments -Tea Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:05 pm Elmer H. Bobst and Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst's wills -Cash legacies -To President and Milton C. Rose -Executors -President, Milton C. Rose and Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst -[unknown first name] Irving trust Page | 11 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -Corporate executor -Alfred E. Driscoll -Executor -Elmer H. Bobst -Potential long life -Instructions -Legal points -Conditions of will -President’s legacy -Publicity -Potential embarrassment -Legacy to Nixon Foundation -Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst’s will -Surviving spouse -Named President and Milton C. Rose as executors -Elmer H. Bobst and Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst’s Foundation -Structure -Incorporated under laws of New York -Active upon Elmer H. Bobst’s death -Legacy upon Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst’s death -The President's involvement -Potential role as director -Nonprofit corporation law in New York -Amendment of by-laws -The President’s involvement -Waivers -Quorum -Publicity -President’s meeting with [first unknown name] Salvatore [?] -Potential questions about Foundation -Press attention on Elmer H. Bobst -Momdouha (As-Sayyid) (“Dodo”) Bobst performance -President’s previous conversation with Elmer H. Bobst Elmer H. Bobst -Health -President’s opinion -Milton C. Rose’s previous visit -Early February 1971 Page | 12 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -Palm Beach -Lunch -Elmer H. Bobst’s trip to New York -Throat surgery ****************************************************************************** Cancer program -Administration’s program -Elmer H. Bobst -Possible appointment -Research -Bobst -The President’s schedule -Possible visit -Communications -United States’ Secret Service -Previous visit to Nelson A. Rockefeller’s house -Logistics ****************************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 04/16/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [458-009-w002] [Duration: 1m 57s] Bill Tynan -Recent visit to White House -Reception -Business leaders Milton C. Rose’s friend Mrs. [first unknown name] Rogers [?] -Asked after President Milton C. Rose’s visits to unnamed lakes [Finger Lakes?] Page | 13 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -Encounter with President -Tenth anniversary of unnamed event -Heat Nelson A. Rockefeller -Margaretta (Fitler) (“Happy”) Rockefeller -President’s previous assistance -Visit to the White House February 23 1971 -Governors’ conference President’s departure from Mudge, Rose, Guthrie & Alexander -John N. Mitchell ****************************************************************************** Personnel -Leonard Garment -Role -Minorities -Arts -Civil rights Forthcoming White House ceremony -John Quincy Adams’ portrait -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s role -Attendees -Descendants of Adams -Presentation -James Monroe’s portrait ****************************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 04/16/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [458-009-w003] [Duration: 26s] Page | 14 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 Elmer H. Bobst’s trust -Assets -Antiques magazine -Wendell Garrett -Editor-in-chief Milton C. Rose -Interest in art ****************************************************************************** Forthcoming White House ceremony -Rose’s possible attendance -Rose’s previous visit White House portraits -Dolley P. T. Madison -John F. Kennedy -Jacqueline Lee Bouvier Kennedy Onassis -Kennedy -Andrew Wyeth Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:34 pm The President’s schedule -Invitation to Rose -White House ceremony Bull left at an unknown time before 5:05 pm Rose’s schedule Presentation of gifts by the President -Donald McI. Kendall [General conversation] Page | 15 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 Rose left at 5:05 pm