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Start Date: Monday, January 24, 1972 6:51 PM

End Date: Monday, January 24, 1972 8:00 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ehrlichman, John D.Mills, Wilbur D.Mills, Abbie L. (Daigh)

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:07:52

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:16:13

317-006.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Wilbur D. Mills, and Abbie L. (Daigh) Mills met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:51 pm to 3:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 317-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 317-006
Date: January 24, 1972
Time: 1:51 pm - 3:00 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
Frank L. Rizzo
-Recent meeting with the President and Ehrlichman, January 24, 1972
-Meeting with the President
-Ward leaders
-Salary
-Pennsylvania budget
-Subsequent meeting with Ehrlichman
-Pennsylvania Congressmen
-Patronage
-Rizzo's control
-Relations with White House
-George P. Shultz and Leonard Garment
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-Pennsylvania
[The President talked with Wilbur D. Mills between 1:52 pm and 1:56 pm.]
[Conversation No. 317-6A]
[See Conversation No. 19-42]
[The President talked with Mills's granddaughter at an unknown time.]
[The President talked with Mills at an unknown time.]
[The President talked with Abbie L. (Daigh) Mills at an unknown time.]
[The President talked with Wilbur Mills between an unknown time after 1:52 pm and 1:56 pm.]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President's previous conversation with Wilbur Mills
-Abbie Mills and Wilbur Mills's granddaughter
-Ages
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1972 campaign
-The President’s strategy
-Populous states
-1968 election
-California, Illinois, and Ohio
-Michigan
-Illinois, Ohio, and California
-Texas
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-New York and Pennsylvania
-Pennsylvania
-Polls
-John F. Kennedy's campaign in 1960
-Hubert H. Humphrey's campaign in 1968
-Hugh Scott
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Usefulness to the President winning in Pennsylvania
-Philadelphia
-Catholics and Italians
-Hugh Scott
-Liberal Republicans
-Blacks
-Compared with Cleveland and Chicago
-Blacks
-Frank L. Rizzo’s view
-The President’s strategy
-Edmund S. Muskie's statement regarding black Vice President
-The President’s analysis
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Need for weekly contacts with administration
-John D. Ehrlichman and Walter H. Annenberg
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Prevent Frank L. Rizzo from supporting
-Charles W. Colson's possible research
-Previous statements on busing, crime, and police
-Priority
-Importance of Philadelphia
-Pennsylvania
-Texas
-Ohio, Illinois, California, and New York
-Blacks
-Liberals' views
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Possible reasons for assisting the President
-Relations with the President
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Federal programs
-Funding
-Rizzo
-Low income housing
-George W. Romney
-Chicago
-Romney
-Robert H. Finch
Romney
-Future
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Church
-Public service
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George W. Romney
-Future aspirations
-Potential ambitions for presidency
-Potential ambitions for vice presidency
-National and state
-Senate
-Gubernatorial
-Potential ambitions for vice presidency
1972 campaign
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Walter H. Annenberg's influence
-John D. Ehrlichman's talk with Walter H. Annenberg, January 21
-Walter H. Annenberg
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1972 campaign
-Walter H. Annenberg
-Financial contribution
-Deal with White House
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1972 campaign
-Walter H. Annenberg
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Perception
-Previous race against W. Thacher Longstreth
-Philadelphia Republicans
-Fear of Walter H. Annenberg
-Voting pattern
-Jewish and black vote
-Harry S. Dent's analysis
-Pennsylvania
-Charles W. Colson's relations with labor leaders
-Bottle workers and builders
-Italians
-Pittsburgh
-The President’s chances of winning in 1972
-Illinois
-Richard B. Ogilvie
-Charles H. Percy
-Leslie C. Arends's views
-Leslie C. Arends
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-Problems regarding redistricting
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Frank T. Bow
-Political plans
-Meeting with the President
-Age
National economy
-Unemployment
-December 1971 figures
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Political staff
-By region and state
-South
-Texas
-Florida
-West
-California
-News summary
-Oregon
-Washington
-Colorado
-North Dakota
-East
-Connecticut
-New Jersey
-New York
-Pennsylvania
-Midwest
-Ohio
-Illinois
-Michigan
-California project
-Ohio and Illinois
-Pennsylvania
-Rizzo
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-William J. Green
-Philadelphia
-[Milton J. Shapp]
-New York
-New York City
-Compared with California
-Nelson A. Rockefeller's welfare program
-Federal money
-California
-Federal money
-Ohio
-John J. Gilligan
-Illinois
-Ohio
-US Senate and House
-Gilligan
-Political prospects
-Illinois
-Richard B. Ogilvie
-Richard J. Daley
-California
-November 1971 figures
-Shifting patterns
-California
-New York
-Connecticut
-Texas, Florida, Illinois
-Demography
-Black teens, Puerto Ricans and minority women
-New York City
-Married heads of households
-Ehrlichman's possible discussions
-Charles W. Colson, John N. Mitchell and Haldeman
-Texas and Florida
-South
-Atlanta
-Blacks
-Menial labor
-North
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-Women
-Unions
Rizzo
-Instruction for Ehrlichman
-Domestic Council
-Rizzo's constituency in other cities
Busing
-Edward L. Morgan's memorandum
-Richmond case
-Judge [Robert R. Merhige, Jr.]
-Lyndon B. Johnson appointee
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Administration position
-State of the Union address
-Local control of local schools
-Constitutional amendment or legislative proposal
-Democratic National Convention
-Result
-Political polarization
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Frank L. Rizzo
-Black vote in previous election
-The President’s analysis
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Rizzo
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-Blacks' views
-Philadelphia police
-Meeting with the President
-Photograph
-Announcement to Philadelphia press
-Federal money
-Hugh Scott's administrative assistant
-1972 election
-Ehrlichman's possible conversation with Scott
-Congressional seats
-Annenberg's influence
-Campaign financing
Annenberg
-Nomination as Ambassador to Great Britain
-Withdrawal
-Father
-Religion
-British Ambassador John Freeman
-Conversations with Ehrlichman
-Rizzo
Rizzo
-Recent meeting with the President
-Ehrlichman’s forthcoming call to Annenberg
-Pittsburgh
-Labor leaders
-Colson
Rockefeller
-Call to Ehrlichman, January 22, 1972
-State of the Union Address
-Value Added Tax [VAT]
-Federal funding for transportation
-VAT
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew’s briefing of executive committee of
governors
-Agnew’s Cabinet briefing
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VAT
-Sales tax
-Ehrlichman's possible conversation with the Vice President
-Administration line
-Advisory Commission on Intergovernmental Relations [ACIR]
-Democrats
-Options
-Agnew
-States
-Calvin L. Rampton's views
-Tax rebates
-Agnew’s views
-Rockefeller
Agnew
-Possible conversation with Ehrlichman
Legal services
-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
-Ronald W. Reagan
-Congressional action
-Board of Directors
-[Lois G. Forer]
-Rizzo
-Appointment by Shapp
-Legal suit against Philadelphia
-Police court
-Board of Directors
-The President's appointment
-Government control
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.’s and Richard H. Nordahl's views
-Public view
-Possible veto
Kissinger
-Military security files
-Allegation
-Haldeman
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White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973
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-Kissinger's conversation with Melvin R. Laird
-Laird's possible action
-Possible White House action
-Jack N. Anderson
-Ehrlichman
-Laird
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F. Donald Nixon
-The President's schedule
-Edward C. Nixon and Donald A. Nixon
-John D. Ehrlichman and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s previous talks
-Murray M. Chotiner
-Herbert W. Kalmbach
-Work with F. Donald Nixon
-Frank Waters’ forthcoming meeting with John D. Ehrlichman
-Loan from Howard Hughes
-Chronology
-Possible press conference
-The President’s reaction
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F. Donald Nixon
-Loan from Howard Hughes
-Frank Waters
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-The President’s 1962 statement
-The President’s dealings with Howard Hughes
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Howard Hughes
-Book hoax
-Payment of $625,000 to "Helga Hughes" [Edith Irving] by McGraw-Hill
-Switzerland
-Lawrence F. O'Brien, Jr.
-Humphrey's son-in-law
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
-Loan to the President's family
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Howard Hughes
-Loan to the President’s family
-Francis A. Nixon and Hannah (Milhous) Nixon
-F. Donald Nixon
-The President’s opinion
-Satisfaction of loan through sale of property
-The President's conversation with Hannah (Milhous) Nixon
-Service station
-Edward C. Nixon
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-F. Donald Nixon
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[Duration: 2m 2s]
Howard Hughes
-Loan to the President’s family
-Potential impact on 1972 campaign
1972 campaign
-Media coverage
-Compared with previous presidential elections
-Edmund S. Muskie’s prospects
-The President’s analysis
-Florida
-Wisconsin
-Pennsylvania
-California
-California
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Eugene L. Wyman
-Alan Cranston
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1972 election
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Possible financing by administration
-California
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1972 campaign
-Compared with 1968 campaign
-The President’s opinion
-George W. Romney
-January 1968
-New Hampshire primary
-Departure from 1968 presidential campaign
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Candidacy
-The President’s opinion
-Comparison to Hubert H. Humphrey
-Intelligence and charisma
-John D. Ehrlichman's opinion
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Yeoman Charles E. Radford
-Possible revelation of information
-Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS]
-Comments to acquaintances
-Conversations with Anderson
-Radford's conversations with [Forename unknown] Cole [sp?]
Watergate
-Wiretaps
-Anderson
-Unknown woman at State Department
-Unknown man
-Background
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-Eugene J. Carroll, Jr. [?]
-Relations with Radford
-Expansion
-Unknown woman at State Department
-Sensitivity of position
-Unknown man
-Reports
-Ehrlichman's perusal
-David R. Young, Jr.
-Kissinger
-Unknown man's conversation with Carroll [?]
-Radford's transfer
-Unknown yeoman
-Transfer
-Reason
-White House action
-Clearance
-Access to documents
Responses to administration's opponents
-Attacks
Richmond busing case
-Newspapers' reaction
-The President’s State of the Union address
-Linwood Holton's views
The President's State of the Union Address
-Tone
-Delivery
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1972 campaign
-The President's stance
-Patrick J. Buchanan's view
-Need for the President to be combative
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.'s view
-John D. Ehrlichman’s view
-Run as incumbent vs candidate
-Vietnam
-Potential impact on 1972 campaign
-The President's trips
-People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] summit
-Potential impact on 1972 campaign
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US foreign policy
-The President's role
-Kissinger
-1972 election
-People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Soviet Union
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-India-Pakistan relations
-PRC
-Analogy to Great Britain's role in nineteenth century
-PRC
-Press coverage
-PRC, Japan, Soviet Union
-PRC
-Soviet Union
-Détente
-Japan
-Visit By Andrei A. Gromyko
-Defense
-Soviets
-Trade
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-The President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-PRC
-Soviet Union
-Kissinger
-William P. Rogers
-State Department
-Soviet Union
-Polls
-1972 election
-Economy
-“Generation of peace”
Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
-Herbert Stein
-Paul W. McCracken
John B. Connally
-Relationship with Ehrlichman
-Relationship with Peter M. Flanigan
-Views of Peter G. Peterson
-Commerce Department
-Presidential statement
-Connally's conversation with Ehrlichman
-Relationship with Flanigan
-Compared with relationship with Peterson
-Drug enforcement
-Eugene T. Rossides
-Treasury Department
-Bureaucracy
-Justice Department
-Krogh
-Schedule
-Flanigan's role
-Use of White House staff
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Possible conversation with the President
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John A. Volpe
-John A. Volpe, Jr.’s health
-Emotional breakdown
-Institutionalized
-James M. Beggs
-Helping out John A. Volpe’s family
-John A. Volpe, Jr.’s health
-Occurrence during gubernatorial campaign
-The President’s opinion
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Unknown people
-Richardson [?]
The President's forthcoming peace plan proposal speech
-Scheduling
Ehrlichman left at 3:00 pm.