Conversation: 317-006
Prev: 317-005 Next: 317-007Start Date: Monday, January 24, 1972 6:51 PM
End Date: Monday, January 24, 1972 8:00 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.; Mills, Wilbur D.; Mills, Abbie L. (Daigh)Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:07:52
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:16:13
NARA Description:
On January 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Wilbur D. Mills, and Abbie L. (Daigh) Mills met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:51 pm to 3:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 317-006 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 317-006 Date: January 24, 1972 Time: 1:51 pm - 3:00 pm Location: Executive Office Building The President met with John D. Ehrlichman. Frank L. Rizzo -Recent meeting with the President and Ehrlichman, January 24, 1972 -Meeting with the President -Ward leaders -Salary -Pennsylvania budget -Subsequent meeting with Ehrlichman -Pennsylvania Congressmen -Patronage -Rizzo's control -Relations with White House -George P. Shultz and Leonard Garment Page | 3 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -Pennsylvania [The President talked with Wilbur D. Mills between 1:52 pm and 1:56 pm.] [Conversation No. 317-6A] [See Conversation No. 19-42] [The President talked with Mills's granddaughter at an unknown time.] [The President talked with Mills at an unknown time.] [The President talked with Abbie L. (Daigh) Mills at an unknown time.] [The President talked with Wilbur Mills between an unknown time after 1:52 pm and 1:56 pm.] [End of telephone conversation] The President's previous conversation with Wilbur Mills -Abbie Mills and Wilbur Mills's granddaughter -Ages ***************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 09/30/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [317-006-w002] [Duration: 5m 43s] 1972 campaign -The President’s strategy -Populous states -1968 election -California, Illinois, and Ohio -Michigan -Illinois, Ohio, and California -Texas Page | 4 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -New York and Pennsylvania -Pennsylvania -Polls -John F. Kennedy's campaign in 1960 -Hubert H. Humphrey's campaign in 1968 -Hugh Scott -Frank L. Rizzo -Usefulness to the President winning in Pennsylvania -Philadelphia -Catholics and Italians -Hugh Scott -Liberal Republicans -Blacks -Compared with Cleveland and Chicago -Blacks -Frank L. Rizzo’s view -The President’s strategy -Edmund S. Muskie's statement regarding black Vice President -The President’s analysis -Frank L. Rizzo -Need for weekly contacts with administration -John D. Ehrlichman and Walter H. Annenberg -Edmund S. Muskie -Prevent Frank L. Rizzo from supporting -Charles W. Colson's possible research -Previous statements on busing, crime, and police -Priority -Importance of Philadelphia -Pennsylvania -Texas -Ohio, Illinois, California, and New York -Blacks -Liberals' views -Frank L. Rizzo -Possible reasons for assisting the President -Relations with the President ***************************************************************** Page | 5 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 Federal programs -Funding -Rizzo -Low income housing -George W. Romney -Chicago -Romney -Robert H. Finch Romney -Future -Conversation with Ehrlichman -Church -Public service ***************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 09/30/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [317-006-w003] [Duration: 48s] George W. Romney -Future aspirations -Potential ambitions for presidency -Potential ambitions for vice presidency -National and state -Senate -Gubernatorial -Potential ambitions for vice presidency 1972 campaign -Frank L. Rizzo -Walter H. Annenberg's influence -John D. Ehrlichman's talk with Walter H. Annenberg, January 21 -Walter H. Annenberg Page | 6 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 ***************************************************************** 1972 campaign -Walter H. Annenberg -Financial contribution -Deal with White House ***************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 09/30/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [317-006-w004] [Duration: 2m 12s] 1972 campaign -Walter H. Annenberg -Frank L. Rizzo -Perception -Previous race against W. Thacher Longstreth -Philadelphia Republicans -Fear of Walter H. Annenberg -Voting pattern -Jewish and black vote -Harry S. Dent's analysis -Pennsylvania -Charles W. Colson's relations with labor leaders -Bottle workers and builders -Italians -Pittsburgh -The President’s chances of winning in 1972 -Illinois -Richard B. Ogilvie -Charles H. Percy -Leslie C. Arends's views -Leslie C. Arends Page | 7 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -Problems regarding redistricting ***************************************************************** Frank T. Bow -Political plans -Meeting with the President -Age National economy -Unemployment -December 1971 figures -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman -Political staff -By region and state -South -Texas -Florida -West -California -News summary -Oregon -Washington -Colorado -North Dakota -East -Connecticut -New Jersey -New York -Pennsylvania -Midwest -Ohio -Illinois -Michigan -California project -Ohio and Illinois -Pennsylvania -Rizzo Page | 8 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -William J. Green -Philadelphia -[Milton J. Shapp] -New York -New York City -Compared with California -Nelson A. Rockefeller's welfare program -Federal money -California -Federal money -Ohio -John J. Gilligan -Illinois -Ohio -US Senate and House -Gilligan -Political prospects -Illinois -Richard B. Ogilvie -Richard J. Daley -California -November 1971 figures -Shifting patterns -California -New York -Connecticut -Texas, Florida, Illinois -Demography -Black teens, Puerto Ricans and minority women -New York City -Married heads of households -Ehrlichman's possible discussions -Charles W. Colson, John N. Mitchell and Haldeman -Texas and Florida -South -Atlanta -Blacks -Menial labor -North Page | 9 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -Women -Unions Rizzo -Instruction for Ehrlichman -Domestic Council -Rizzo's constituency in other cities Busing -Edward L. Morgan's memorandum -Richmond case -Judge [Robert R. Merhige, Jr.] -Lyndon B. Johnson appointee -Elliot L. Richardson -Administration position -State of the Union address -Local control of local schools -Constitutional amendment or legislative proposal -Democratic National Convention -Result -Political polarization ***************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 09/30/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [317-006-w005] [Duration: 8s] Frank L. Rizzo -Black vote in previous election -The President’s analysis ***************************************************************** Rizzo Page | 10 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -Blacks' views -Philadelphia police -Meeting with the President -Photograph -Announcement to Philadelphia press -Federal money -Hugh Scott's administrative assistant -1972 election -Ehrlichman's possible conversation with Scott -Congressional seats -Annenberg's influence -Campaign financing Annenberg -Nomination as Ambassador to Great Britain -Withdrawal -Father -Religion -British Ambassador John Freeman -Conversations with Ehrlichman -Rizzo Rizzo -Recent meeting with the President -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming call to Annenberg -Pittsburgh -Labor leaders -Colson Rockefeller -Call to Ehrlichman, January 22, 1972 -State of the Union Address -Value Added Tax [VAT] -Federal funding for transportation -VAT -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew’s briefing of executive committee of governors -Agnew’s Cabinet briefing Page | 11 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 VAT -Sales tax -Ehrlichman's possible conversation with the Vice President -Administration line -Advisory Commission on Intergovernmental Relations [ACIR] -Democrats -Options -Agnew -States -Calvin L. Rampton's views -Tax rebates -Agnew’s views -Rockefeller Agnew -Possible conversation with Ehrlichman Legal services -Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] -Ronald W. Reagan -Congressional action -Board of Directors -[Lois G. Forer] -Rizzo -Appointment by Shapp -Legal suit against Philadelphia -Police court -Board of Directors -The President's appointment -Government control -Ehrlichman’s view -Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.’s and Richard H. Nordahl's views -Public view -Possible veto Kissinger -Military security files -Allegation -Haldeman Page | 12 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -Kissinger's conversation with Melvin R. Laird -Laird's possible action -Possible White House action -Jack N. Anderson -Ehrlichman -Laird ***************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/04/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [317-006-w006] [Duration: 1m 40s] F. Donald Nixon -The President's schedule -Edward C. Nixon and Donald A. Nixon -John D. Ehrlichman and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s previous talks -Murray M. Chotiner -Herbert W. Kalmbach -Work with F. Donald Nixon -Frank Waters’ forthcoming meeting with John D. Ehrlichman -Loan from Howard Hughes -Chronology -Possible press conference -The President’s reaction ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/04/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [317-006-w015] Page | 13 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 [Duration: 28s] F. Donald Nixon -Loan from Howard Hughes -Frank Waters -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman -The President’s 1962 statement -The President’s dealings with Howard Hughes ***************************************************************** Howard Hughes -Book hoax -Payment of $625,000 to "Helga Hughes" [Edith Irving] by McGraw-Hill -Switzerland -Lawrence F. O'Brien, Jr. -Humphrey's son-in-law -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo -Loan to the President's family ***************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/04/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [317-006-w007] [Duration: 1m 14s] Howard Hughes -Loan to the President’s family -Francis A. Nixon and Hannah (Milhous) Nixon -F. Donald Nixon -The President’s opinion -Satisfaction of loan through sale of property -The President's conversation with Hannah (Milhous) Nixon -Service station -Edward C. Nixon Page | 14 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -F. Donald Nixon ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 09/30/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [317-006-w008] [Duration: 2m 2s] Howard Hughes -Loan to the President’s family -Potential impact on 1972 campaign 1972 campaign -Media coverage -Compared with previous presidential elections -Edmund S. Muskie’s prospects -The President’s analysis -Florida -Wisconsin -Pennsylvania -California -California -Hubert H. Humphrey -Eugene L. Wyman -Alan Cranston ***************************************************************** 1972 election -Hubert H. Humphrey -Possible financing by administration -California Page | 15 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 ***************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 09/30/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [317-006-w009] [Duration: 1m 54s] 1972 campaign -Compared with 1968 campaign -The President’s opinion -George W. Romney -January 1968 -New Hampshire primary -Departure from 1968 presidential campaign -Edmund S. Muskie -Candidacy -The President’s opinion -Comparison to Hubert H. Humphrey -Intelligence and charisma -John D. Ehrlichman's opinion ***************************************************************** Yeoman Charles E. Radford -Possible revelation of information -Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS] -Comments to acquaintances -Conversations with Anderson -Radford's conversations with [Forename unknown] Cole [sp?] Watergate -Wiretaps -Anderson -Unknown woman at State Department -Unknown man -Background Page | 16 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -Eugene J. Carroll, Jr. [?] -Relations with Radford -Expansion -Unknown woman at State Department -Sensitivity of position -Unknown man -Reports -Ehrlichman's perusal -David R. Young, Jr. -Kissinger -Unknown man's conversation with Carroll [?] -Radford's transfer -Unknown yeoman -Transfer -Reason -White House action -Clearance -Access to documents Responses to administration's opponents -Attacks Richmond busing case -Newspapers' reaction -The President’s State of the Union address -Linwood Holton's views The President's State of the Union Address -Tone -Delivery ***************************************************************** [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 09/30/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [317-006-w012] [Duration: 1m 26s] Page | 17 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 1972 campaign -The President's stance -Patrick J. Buchanan's view -Need for the President to be combative -Raymond K. Price, Jr.'s view -John D. Ehrlichman’s view -Run as incumbent vs candidate -Vietnam -Potential impact on 1972 campaign -The President's trips -People's Republic of China [PRC] -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] summit -Potential impact on 1972 campaign ***************************************************************** US foreign policy -The President's role -Kissinger -1972 election -People's Republic of China [PRC] -Soviet Union -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin -India-Pakistan relations -PRC -Analogy to Great Britain's role in nineteenth century -PRC -Press coverage -PRC, Japan, Soviet Union -PRC -Soviet Union -Détente -Japan -Visit By Andrei A. Gromyko -Defense -Soviets -Trade Page | 18 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 -The President’s forthcoming trip to PRC -PRC -Soviet Union -Kissinger -William P. Rogers -State Department -Soviet Union -Polls -1972 election -Economy -“Generation of peace” Council of Economic Advisors [CEA] -Herbert Stein -Paul W. McCracken John B. Connally -Relationship with Ehrlichman -Relationship with Peter M. Flanigan -Views of Peter G. Peterson -Commerce Department -Presidential statement -Connally's conversation with Ehrlichman -Relationship with Flanigan -Compared with relationship with Peterson -Drug enforcement -Eugene T. Rossides -Treasury Department -Bureaucracy -Justice Department -Krogh -Schedule -Flanigan's role -Use of White House staff -Conversation with Ehrlichman -Possible conversation with the President ***************************************************************** Page | 19 White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973 Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542 [Previous PRMPA Privacy (D) reviewed under deed of gift 10/03/2019. Segment cleared for release.] [Privacy] [317-006-w014] [Duration: 1m 45s] John A. Volpe -John A. Volpe, Jr.’s health -Emotional breakdown -Institutionalized -James M. Beggs -Helping out John A. Volpe’s family -John A. Volpe, Jr.’s health -Occurrence during gubernatorial campaign -The President’s opinion ***************************************************************** Unknown people -Richardson [?] The President's forthcoming peace plan proposal speech -Scheduling Ehrlichman left at 3:00 pm.