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Start Date: Wednesday, July 21, 1971 3:05 PM

End Date: Wednesday, July 21, 1971 5:14 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:06:38

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:08:59

264-005.mp3

NARA Description:

On July 21, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:05 am and 1:14 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 264-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 264-005
Date: July 21, 1971
Time: Unknown between 11:05 am and 1:14 pm
Location: Old Executive Office Building
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
The President's schedule
-Meeting with John B. Connally
-Meeting regarding labor
-Meeting with Robert H. Finch, Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Meeting with Melvin R. Laird
-Trip
-Possible meeting with Henry A. Kissinger
-National Security Council [NSC] briefing
-Diplomatic credentials ceremony
-Peter G. Peterson
-Foreign trade meeting
-Kissinger's congressional meeting
-Congressman
-Clark MacGregor’s view about leadership meeting
-John J. McCloy [?]
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The President’s schedule
-Congressman
-Robert J. Dole
-President’s opinion
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The President’s schedule
-Congressman
-Future leadership meetings
-Frequency
-Connally’s view
-MacGregor
-Budget meetings
-Location, time, frequency, duration
-Participants
-Kissinger
-Duration
-Future Farmers of America
-President’s participation
-Oval Office tour
-Other farm-related meetings
-[Dwight D.] Eisenhower silver dollar
-Connally
-Mamie G.D. Eisenhower
-Congressional Cabinet participation
-Mary T. Brooks
-Meeting with Alfred P. Chamie
-Trip to Vietnam
-Indonesian Ambassador to the US
-Return to Indonesia
-Request for meeting
-Otto E. Passman
-Request for presidential phone call
-Monroe, LA drug conference
-John S. Davies
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-Departure from Washington
-Possible dinner in the White House Residence
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Patrick J. and Shelley S. Buchanan
-Arrangements
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
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The President’s schedule
-John S. Davies
-The President’s opinion
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The President’s schedule
-John S. Davies
-Meeting option
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The President’s schedule
-John S. Davies
-Dinner
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The President’s schedule
-Olin E. (“Tiger”) Teague
-Request for meeting to discuss legislation
-Donald E. Johnson, Charles M. Teague, George P. Shultz
-Congressional staff reception on White House South Lawn
-Congressional recess
-Previous event
-Air Force One
-Naming of plane "Spirit of '76"
-Announcement
-David J. Mahoney, Jr.
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The President’s schedule
-Kenneth Milhous
-White House tour on July 21, 1971
-President’s office
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The President’s schedule
-Dr. Stanley H. Bear (?)
-Departure from the White House staff
-Meeting with the President
-Presidential trip
-Rathbun Dam, Ottumwa, Iowa
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-Presidential appearance at dedication ceremony
-Conservation issue
-Previous water project dedications
-Arkansas
-Mobile, Alabama
-Canton, Ohio
-Professional Football Hall of Fame
-Parade, induction ceremony
-Wellington T. Mara
-Vincent T. (“Vince”) Lombardi
-The President's speech
-Logistics
-The Bohemian Grove
[Pause]
-Order of events
-The President's meetings with Republican Congressmen
-Sessions
-MacGregor
-Frequency
-Attendance
-Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends
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The President’s schedule
-The President's meetings with Republican Congressmen
-Robert P. Griffin
-President’s opinion
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The President’s schedule
-The President's meetings with Republican Congressmen
-Compared to Eisenhower administration
-Bryce Harlow
-Cabinet meeting
-Congress
-MacGregor
-Schedule
-Presidential trips
-Bohemian Grove
-California
-Canton, Ohio
-Dayton, Ohio
-Republican women's federation
-October trip to Washington
-Trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Congressional recess
-President Josip Broz Tito's state visit in October, 1971
-Florida
-Trip to Maine
-Timing
[Pause]
-Cancellation of event in Hawaii
-Cost
-Asian trip
-Maine
-Timing
-Congress
-Dallas
-Timing
-New York
-Knights of Columbus event
-New England trip
-Maine
-New Hampshire
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-Shipyard event
-Portsmouth
-Apollo 15 spacecraft splashdown
-New England states
-Mid-Atlantic, western states
-Trip to the PRC
-Departure from California
-”Gateway to the Orient”
-Return stops in Hawaii, Alaska
-Advance
-Kissinger
-Separation from other staff members
-Kissinger's role
-Press contingent
-Television networks, wire services
-Newspapers, magazines, radio
-The New York Times, the Washington Post
-Henry A. Grunwald
-Stopover in Hawaii
-Advantages
-California departure
-San Francisco
-The President's role in trip arrangements
-Secret Service
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The President’s schedule
Trip to People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Routine preparations
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The President’s schedule
Trip to People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Security arrangements
Ambassadorial appointments
-Japan
-The President's conversation with David M. Kennedy
-Peterson
-Connally
-Kennedy
-William P. Rogers
-Age
-The State Department
-Channels of communication
-Leaks
-Kennedy's view of State Department
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Ambassadorial appointments
-Japan
-David M. Kennedy’s recommendation
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s opinion
-Gerald R. Ford [?]
-The President’s opinion
-Peter G. Peterson’s opinion
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Ambassadorial appointments
-Japan
-Rogers
The President's military aides
-Kissinger
-Appearance
-Gen. James D. (“Don”) Hughes
-Ceremonial visits contrasted with routine duty
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The President’s military aides
-Glen [?] Wheeler
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-Rose Mary Woods’ assessment
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s assessment
-Director of public affairs at Agency for International Development [AID]
-Money
-Robert H. Abplanalp
-The President’s opinion
-Robert H. Abplanalp’s phone call to H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Previous White House job offer
-African embassy
-Loyalty
-Demeanor needed for the job
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Article about the President
-Richard (“Dick”) Wilson
-Look
-Reprint in the Reader's Digest
-Amount of time needed for meeting with the President
-Contact with others on the White House staff
-Kissinger, John D. Ehrlichman, Haldeman
-Contact with Rose Mary Woods, other White House staff
Voluntary action centers
-Progress report
-Staff
-Locations
-Funding
-Lenore L. Romney
-"Right to Read" program
-Youth
-Senators
The Bicentennial
-David J. Mahoney, Jr.
-Pennsylvania
-Washington, DC
-Boston, Massachusetts
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-Virginia
-Miami, Florida
-Mahoney
Efforts to appeal to youth
-Finch
-Charles W. Colson
-The PRC
-Vietnam
Personnel
-Rogers
-John Richardson, Jr.
-Educational and Cultural Affairs post
-Previous job with Radio Free Europe
-Political work
-Youth focus
-Public affairs position
-Political orientation
-Possible task force
-Youth, PRC
Conservatives
-Young Americans for Freedom [YAF]
-John Birch Society
-Current status compared to California, 1962
-PRC
-Laos, Cambodia actions in the Vietnam war
-Reaction of the right
Congressional leaders
-Centrists
-Colson
-John B. Connally
-MacGregor
-Role
-William E. Timmons
President’s schedule
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-Breakfasts
-Chowder and Marching Society
-Supporters
Youth issue
-YAF
Economic issues
-John Kenneth Galbraith
-Wage-price controls
-Keynsian economic theory
-Public opinion
-Labor unions, business
-Socialists, Communists
-Galbraith, Walter W. Heller
-George P. Shultz
-Democrats
-Economic spokesman
-Speech
-William L. Safire's recommendations
-The President's Kansas City speech
-Peterson
-Radio speech
-Steel strike
-Effect as example of public leadership
-Connally
-David Lawrence's column
-Chou En-lai
-PRC initiative
-Radio
Foreign relations
-Vietnam War
-Kissinger
-Hanoi
-South Vietnam
-The PRC initiative
-Roles, responsibilities
-Rogers
-Kissinger, the President
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-Agnew
-Laird
-Rogers, Laird, Kissinger
The President's schedule
-Finch, Rumsfeld
-Finch
-Job offers
-Mexico [Ambassadorship]
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-Office of Emergency Preparedness [OEP]
-Rumsfeld
-Finch
-California
-Reagan
-Rumsfeld
-Counsellor position
-Arthur F. Burns, [Surname unintelligible], Finch, Rumsfeld
-Frequency of staff and Cabinet meetings
-Paul W. McCracken
-Shultz
-Burns’ request for a meeting
-Ehrlichman
-Connally
-Loyalty to administration
Presidential leadership
-Public relations
-PRC initiative compared to other foreign travel
-Family Assistance Program
-Eisenhower’s statement on trip to Korea
Kissinger entered at 12:40 pm.
-The President’s current conversation with Haldeman
-The PRC initiative
-Roles
-Rogers, Kissinger, the President
-Hugh S. Sidey
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-President’s request for Kissinger to talk to Sidey
-Press
-Rogers
-Kissinger compared to Rogers
-[Forename not given] Alsop’s article
-The President’s 1969 trip to Romania, European countries
-The myth of leadership
-Eisenhower’s trip to Korea
-John F. Kennedy and Cuba
-PRC initiative
-Domestic policy
-Foreign policy
Foreign relations
-State Department
-US-USSR summit
-Timing of announcement
-Vietnam War
-Settlement
-US troop withdrawal
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Dobrynin’s meeting with Maurice H. Stans personal assistant
-Invitation to Stans to visit USSR
-Dobrynin’s conversation with Kissinger
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Foreign relations
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Maurice H. Stans
-Invitation to visit United Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-No reason to be first cabinet member to visit
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-Henry A. Kissinger’s opinion
-The President’s opinion
-Willing to follow orders
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Foreign relations
-Stans possible visit to USSR
-Staff assistance
-Winston Lord
-Tone of trip
-Establishment of precedent
-Finch
-Rumsfeld
-Instructions to Cabinet
-Trips by others
-PRC
-USSR
-Announcement of US-USSR summit
-Timing
-US-PRC summit
-Economic matters
-Dobrynin
-Stans
-Kissinger’s conversations with Dobrynin
-The President
-Ford’s inquiry
-Mack truck deal
-Size
-Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania
-Negotiations
-President’s request for Kissinger to call Ford
-Policy on trips by Cabinet members
-Stans
-Rogers
-Request for Kissinger to call Howard Stein
-Economic developments
-US dollar
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-Roles and responsibilities
-Stans
-The President, Kissinger
-The PRC initiative, Vietnam negotiations
-Kissinger’s conversation with Sidey
-Comparison to Lyndon B. Johnson
-Kissinger
-Dealings with the press
-The New York Times
-Attitude
-Max Frankel
-Henry A. Grunwald
-Hedley W. Donovan
-[First name not given] [Thomas?] Griffith
-John W. Gardner, John V. Lindsay, Edmund S. Muskie
-Sidey
-Role of writer vis-a-vis editor
-Griffith
-Grunwald
-Newsweek, the Washington Post
-Grunwald
-Cyrus R. Vance, W. Averell Harriman
-George H.W. Bush
-Newsweek
-Stans proposed trip to USSR
-Dobrynin
-Stans’ possible statements
-Robert J. Dole
-Proposed trip to Vietnam
-Senator
-The PRC
-Conservatives
-Role as Republican National Committee Chairman as compared to role as
US Senator
-Comparison to Ronald W. Reagan's proposed trip to Taiwan
-The South Korean government
-[Forename unknown] Gallagher
-Taiwan
-George A. Murphy
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-Kissinger's dinner in New York City
-Comments about the PRC initiative
-The Vietnam war
-Frankel
-Perception of issue
-Vietnam negotiations
-Forthcoming meeting
-Issues
-Coalition government in South Vietnam
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
-Options
-Kissinger’s forthcoming conversation with Ford
-President’s forthcoming conversation with Dole
Kissinger left at 1:05 pm.
-Kissinger's role
-Coordination of public relations effort
-”Nixon initiative”
-Colson
The President's schedule
-Forthcoming meeting at 3:00 pm
Connally
-Haldeman’s conversation with Harlow
-Agnew
-Role of Vice President
-Possible resignation
-Travel, speaking engagements
-Compared to Johnson
-Harlow
-Possible future
-Kissinger
-Agnew
Haldeman left at 1:14 pm.
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