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Start Date: 18-Jan-1972 2:30 PM

End Date: 18-Jan-1972 3:42 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Butterfield, Alexander P.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Butterfield, Alexander P.White House operatorMonzon, Zosimo T.Connally, John B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:53:26

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 06:07:48

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NARA Description:

On January 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Alexander P. Butterfield, White House operator, Zosimo T. Monzon, and John B. Connally met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:30 pm to 3:42 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 650-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 650-13

Date: January 18, 1972
Time: 2:30 pm - 3:42 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.

     John B. Connally

     President's schedule
          -Dinner table arrangements for January 20, 1972 Cabinet dinner
                 -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                 -Remarks
                      -Maurice H. Stans
                      -Clifford M. Hardin
                      -Bryce N. Harlow, Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan, Arthur F. Burns
          -[DeWitt Wallace] dinner on January 28, 1972
                 -Ray Conniff Singers
                      -Rose Mary Woods
                 -Medal of Freedom presentation
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                 -Dress
                 -Readers' Digest staff

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman was present at an unknown time after 2:30 pm.

           -Woods's call to Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
           -Dinner
                 -Herbert G. Klein
                 -Conniff Singers
                      -Medley performance
                 -Guests
                      -Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr.
                      -Cabinet dinner
                            -Robert J. Dole
                      -Mosbacher
                            -Governors' dinner
                            -Wallace dinner
                            -Mosbacher
                                  -Woods
                                  -Rank
                                       -John N. Irwin, II
           -William L. Safire
                 -Meeting

Butterfield left at 2:40 pm.

     Haldeman's schedule
          -Appearance at Cathedral School
               -Girls Nation address by President
                     -Indira Gandhi
                     -Golda Meir
                     -Yvonne (Vendroux) de Gaulle
               -Role of women
                     -Women's liberation
                     -Romana A. Banuelos
                           -Sons
                           -Background
               -Blacks
                     -Administration efforts
                           -Food stamps
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President's schedule
     -Connally
     -George P. Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman
     -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
     -Safire

Staff roles
      -Henry A. Kissinger conflict with William P. Rogers
            -Haldeman’s meeting with John N. Mitchell and Kissinger
                  -Meeting with Kissinger and Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                        -Kissinger’s memorandum
                        -Mitchell’s comments
                        -Kissinger’s tone
                        -Kissinger’s tenure
                              -Haig
                        -Mitchell's view
                              -Letter from President to Rogers and Kissinger
                              -Strategy
      -President's role
            -Areas of responsibility of Kissinger, Rogers
      -Possible directive
            -Keeping the President informed
                  -People's Republic of China [PRC]
                  -Soviet Union
                  -Middle East
                  -Contacts
                  -Meetings
                        -Soviet Union
                        -PRC
                        -Israel
                        -Middle East
                        -Objectives, talking points, memoranda of conversations
                  -Mitchell, Haldeman discussions with Kissinger, Rogers
                  -Possible rephrasing

State Department
      -Connally's memorandum to the President
      -Rogers
      -Salvador Allende Gossens
      -Expropriation
           -Sidney Weintraub
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                -Rogers
                       -Conversation on the Sequoia
            -Connally's memorandum
                -National Security Council [NSC]
                       -Butterfield
                -Forthcoming meeting with Connally
                -President's response
                       -Copies to Connally, Rogers, Kissinger
                       -Delegation of authority to Connally
                -Chilean loan
                       -Renegotiation
                            -US Government agency roles
                                   -Rogers, State Department
                                   -Connally
                                        -Treasury Department


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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[Subject: Intelligence]

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            -Kissinger
                 -Complaints about State Department
            -Rogers
                 -The President’s talk with Ehrlichman, Shultz
                       -Kissinger
                 -Popularity
                       -Press
                       -Public

    Staff
            -Peter M. Flanigan
                  -Peter G. Peterson
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           -Kissinger
     -Paris monetary meeting memorandum from Connally to the President
           -Routing
                 -NSC
                 -Peterson
     -Flanigan
           -Connally
     -Connally
           -Problems
           -The President’s guidelines of January 17, 1972
           -William T. Eberle
                 -Trade
     -Peterson
     -Flanigan
           -Connally
     -Connally
           -Flanigan
                 -Role
           -Monetary issues
                 -Connally's view of roles
                       -Shultz
           -Department of Defense [DOD]
     -Peterson's appointment
           -Ehrlichman's view
           -Commerce Department
                 -Peterson's plans
                       -Possible announcement
                       -Connally
                       -Shultz
                       -James D. Hodgson
                       -Rogers
                       -Ehrlichman
                       -Reorganization
                             -Council on competition
                                   -Connally, Ehrlichman

Congressional briefing
    -State of the Union address
    -Meeting with President
    -Clark MacGregor meeting
          -Hugh Scott
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                 -Robert P. Griffin
                 -Gerald R. Ford
                 -Leslie C. Arends
                 -Carl B. Albert
                 -Michael J. Mansfield
                 -[Thomas] Hale Boggs

     Ehrlichman
           -View of Congress’ mood

     Edward M. Kennedy speech
         -Tone
         -Vietnam
              -Nguyen Van Thieu
                    -1972 election
         -Forthcoming reply
         -Need for reply
              -Press

     Staff
             -Mood

     Haldeman’s talk with Price

The President left at an unknown time after 2:40 pm.

The President returned at an unknown time before 3:28 pm.

     Howard R. Hughes loan
         -F. Donald Nixon
              -Request for a meeting with the President
         -1962 statement
              -Ronald L. Ziegler
              -Loan
                    -Property
                          The President’s involvement
         -Clark M. Clifford
         -Frank J. Waters
              -1962 statement
         -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
              -Statement
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                   -Property
                        -Satisfaction of loan


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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    Wiley T. Buchanan
         -Rose Mary Woods
         -Possible Appointment
               -Flanigan
               -Haldeman’s possible talk with Woods
         -Note
               -Effort to see the President
         -Invitation to dinner
         -Haldeman
         -Effort to see the President
               -Haldeman
                     -Flanigan

    F. Donald Nixon
         -Request to see the President
              -Ehrlichman
              -Haldeman
         -News story
         -Tax exempt foundation
         -Trans World Airlines [TWA] route
              -Melvin Belli
              -President's involvement
                    -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
              -TWA
              -Don Nixon
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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[Duration: 16s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6

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    Political strategy in 1972
          -Price
          -Patrick J. Buchanan
          -Connally
          -Price
                 -State of the Union speech
                       -Effect
          -Connally's thesis
                 -Reactions to leaders
                       -Love
                       -Hate
                       -Fear
                             -Rogers
          -Price
                 -View of combative mood
                 -President's weaknesses
                       -Credibility, political image
                 -Possible attack on opponents
                       -Timing
                 -Polls
                       -Effect of incumbency in re-election
                 -1970 election
                       -Media
                 -Strategy
          -Approval ratings in 1971
                 -State of the Union address
                 -Laos
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    Polls
            -George H. Gallup
                 -View of the President in 1972
            -December 1971
                 -George Meany
                 -A Day in the Life of the President television show
                 -Christmas
                 -Unnamed woman in Florida
                 -Forthcoming summits
                 -Monetary agreement
                 -India-Pakistan war
                 -Vietnam
                       -Bombing
                            -Timing
                            -Louis P. Harris
            -Harris
                 -Edmund S. Muskie
            -Gallup
                 -The President’s popularity
                       -Compared to Democrats
                            -Methods used by Gallup
                                  -Donald H. Rumsfeld
                       -1971 level
                       -Republican Party
                            -Harris
                            -The President’s August 1971 economic initiatives
                 -Timing
                       -Washington Post
            -Connally
                 -Rogers


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 5m ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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    President's image
         -Compared to past presidents
                -Theodore Roosevelt
                -[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson
                -Franklin D. Roosevelt
                -Harry S. Truman
                -John F. Kennedy
                -Lyndon B. Johnson
                -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                -Abraham Lincoln
         -Richard A. Moore
         -Charles W. Colson
         -Image
                -Outgoing telephone calls
                      -Indian child
                      -Cuban woman
                -Price's view
                      -Connally
                -Effect of Meany confrontation
                -Truman
                      -Congress
                -Franklin Roosevelt
                      -Special interests

    Monday magazine
        -Frank Leonard
             -Article about Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's trip to Africa
                   -Color photographs

    President's image
         -Price strategy
         -Buchanan strategy
         -Laird memorandum
                -Shultz
                -Press conferences
                     -Rather
         -Press conferences
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                -Effectiveness
                     -Connally's views
          -Price
                -Public view of incumbents
                -Human nature

An unknown person [Butterfield?] entered at an unknown time after 2:40 pm.

The unknown person left [Butterfield?] left at an unknown time before 3:28 pm.

    President's schedule
         -Kissinger’s request
                -Rogers
         -Luis Echeverria Alvarez visit
                -Timing
                     -The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
                -Message
                     -Approval
                          -US ambassador [Robert H. McBride]
         -Visit of Nihat Erim of Turkey
                -Timing
                     -The President’s forthcoming trip to the People’s Republic of China
[PRC]
                     -Soviet Union trip
         -Trip to Iran
                -Timing
                     -[Shah of Iran] Mohammed Reza Pahlavi
                          -Soviet Union trip
                                -Kissinger’s and State Department’s view
                                      -Saudi Arabia
                          -Consultations

     Chilean Loan
          -Handling of issue by State Department
               -Connally
                    -Document
                           -US ambassador’s [Edward M. Korry’s] apology
               -Kissinger
                    -Rogers
               -Connally
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                                       Tape Subject Log
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     Staff
             -Rogers
                  -Memorandum from President
                        -Need for cooperation
                             -Election year
                             -Foreign policy achievements
                        -Keeping the President informed
                             -Soviet Union
                             -PRC
                             -Middle East
                        -New procedures outlined
                             -Haldeman’s role
                        -Need for cooperation
                        -Haldeman's role
                             -Liaison with President
             -Kissinger
                  -Memorandum from the President
                  -Memorandum
                        -Content
                             -Rogers
                             -NSC
                             -Keeping the President informed
                             -Rogers
             -Connally
                  -Memorandum from the President
                        -Rogers

             -Kissinger
                  -Memorandum
                        -Tone
                        -Purpose
                             -Rogers
                        -Haldeman’s question

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 2:40 pm and
3:28 pm.]

[Conversation No. 650-13A]

[See Conversation No. 18-103]
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[End of telephone conversation]

     Kissinger's memorandum

Zosimo T. Monzon entered at an unknown time after 2:40 pm.

     President's schedule
          -Executive Office Building [EOB]

Monzon left at an unknown time before 3:28 pm.

[The President talked with Connally between 3:28 pm and 3:29 pm.]

[Conversation No. 650-13B]

[See Conversation No. 18-104]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Budget message
         -Shultz
         -Ceiling

     Rogers
         -Kissinger

     Connally
         -Authority
         -Relationship with the President

     Chilean loan
          -Connally
          -Weintraub
                -Frederic V. Malek
          -Prospects
                -Leak
                -Allende
                -Kissinger
                     -The President

     President's responsibilities
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    Buchanan
        -Handling of color

    Price


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    Democrats' attacks on the President
        -Edward Kennedy's Vietnam speech
              -Tone
        -Hughes loan issue
              -Edward Kennedy
                    -Chappaquiddick
              -Effect
                    -1960 campaign
                    -1962 campaign
        -1962 campaign practices
              -Attacks
                    -Loan on house

    Relatives of presidents
         -Franklin D. Roosevelt's sons
         -Don Nixon
         -Johnson, John Kennedy
         -Don Nixon
               -Legal action
               -Ehrlichman
               -Possible handling
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    Loan issue
         -Viability

    Connally
        -Oil depletion issue
        -1968 campaign
              -Hubert H. Humphrey
                    -Astrodome
                    -Statement
                    -Astrodome
                          -Television coverage
              -Chicago convention


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    President’s image
         -The President's actions
               -Peace
               -PRC trip
               -Soviet Union trip
               -Issue of peace, war
               -The President's previous meeting with Ehrlichman, Shultz
                     -Congress
               -Congress
                     -Approach to handling
                           -Polls
                           -Non-partisanship
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13
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[Duration: 49s ]


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     Scott
             -Calls
             -PRC trip
                   -Mansfield
             -Strategy
                   -Kennedys
                       -Partisanship
                       -Political practices


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 14
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 44s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 14

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Haldeman left at 3:42 pm.
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