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Start Date: 22-Nov-1971 5:05 PM

End Date: 22-Nov-1971 6:32 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:06:05

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:23:00

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622b.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:05 pm and 6:32 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 622-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 622-15

Date: November 22, 1971
Time: Unknown between 5:05 pm and 6:32 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with Arthur F. Burns
               -Views of John B. Connally and George P. Shultz
               -International monetary system
               -Timing

Haldeman left and John D. Ehrlichman entered at 5:15 pm.

          -Rogers C. B. Morton
               -Ehrlichman

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:15 pm.

     Refreshment [?]

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:39 pm
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 622-15 (cont.)



          -Trust territories
     -Morton’s forthcoming trip
          -Franklin Haydn Williams
          -US retention
          -Removal of Peace Corps
          -Morton's previous conversation with Henry A. Kissinger
          -Ehrlichman's forthcoming conversation with Kissinger

Catalina Island
     -National park
            -Gift from Philip K. Wrigley
            -Nelson A. Rockefeller
            -William L. Pereira
     -Wrigley
            -Ehrlichman’s view
            -Chicago Cubs
            -Pereira’s view
            -Finances
     -Value
     -Wrigley
            -Possible meeting with Morton
     -National park
            -Benefits

Federal recreation area in Greenbelt, Maryland
     -Assembly of land parcel
           -Goddard Space Center, US Department of Agriculture Research Center,
                 wildlife refuge and Fort Meade
     -Use
     -Development
     -Subway in Washington, DC
           -Legislative prospects
           -The President's meeting with Joel T. Broyhill
           -William H. Natcher
     -Ehrlichman’s view
     -Location
     -The President's name
           -Legislation
                 -Timing
                                        15

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 622-15 (cont.)


Pending tax bill
     -Presidential campaign federal funding
           -Forthcoming vote
                 -Clark MacGregor's view
                 -Lawrence F. O'Brien, Jr.
                       -The President’s view
                 -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson and Edmund S. Muskie
                       -Cancellation of American Federation of Labor-Congress of
                           Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO] appearances
           -Possible veto
                 -Ehrlichman’s view
           -Democrats
                 -Finances
           -Possible veto
                 -James O. Eastland's views
                 -The President’s view
                 -Unknown person's bill
                       -Hugh Scott

National economy
     -Effect on 1972 Presidential campaign
           -Vietnam
           -Pending tax bill
                -Pros and cons
     -Status
           -Connally's views
           -Views of Herbert Stein and Paul W. McCracken
     -Ehrlichman's previous speech to bankers
           -University of Utah
     -Charles W. Colson and McCracken
           -The President’s policy
     -Ehrlichman's speech in Utah
           -Copy to the President
           -Reception
           -Questions
                -Labor
                -The President’s previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
     -Connally
           -Previous press conference
                -Ehrlichman’s view
     -The President's program
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 622-15 (cont.)


           -Pay Board
                 -George Meany's possible action
                       -White House reaction
     -The President's previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
           -Haldeman
           -Gerald L. Warren
           -Richard A. Moore
           -John A. Scali
           -Meany
           -US New and World Report
           -Washington Post
     -Ehrlichman's speech in Utah
           -Attendees
     -The President's program
           -Pay Board
                 -Meany's participation
                       -Previous Washington Star story
                       -Ehrlichman’s view
                       -Connally's previous press conference
     -The President's previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
           -Meany's comments
           -Press coverage
                 -Unknown Jewish person from Associated Press [AP]
                 -Frank Cormier
           -Connally's previous comments
           -Press coverage
                 -Ehrlichman’s view
                 -Possible effect of India-Pakistan conflict
     -Status
           -Demand
                 -Economic indicators
           -Connally's views regarding business
           -Ehrlichman's speech in Utah
                 -Press coverage

Possible purchase of Big Cypress Swamp
     -The President's forthcoming meeting with Morton
     -Ehrlichman's previous conversation with Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
           -Comparison to Everglades
     -Florida ecology
           -Shrimp
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 622-15 (cont.)


          -The President’s position
          -Jackson's views
          -Views of Morton and John C. Whitaker
          -Methods
               -Direct purchase
               -Water and development rights
               -Morton’s forthcoming announcement
               -Office of Management and Budget [OMB] study

     J. Edgar Hoover
          -The President's instructions regarding killings of policemen
          -Killing of policemen in New York
                -Arrests
                      -Credit
                            -Possible call from the President
                -Waverly M. Jones and Joseph A. Piagentini [slain policemen]
                -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] investigation
                -Arrests
                      -Hoover’s forthcoming announcement
                      -John N. Mitchell
                      -Possible call from the President

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 5:15 pm and
5:39 pm.

[Conversation No. 622-15A]

[See Conversation No. 15-105]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Morton
         -Department of the Interior
              -Bureau of Indian Affairs

     Earl L. Butz
           -Senate confirmation
           -Corn and wheat sales

     Government reorganization
         -Agriculture Department
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 622-15 (cont.)


               -Ehrlichman's previous conversation with Clifford M. Hardin
          -Possible legislative action

     Revenue-sharing
         -Wilbur D. Mills's forthcoming action
         -The President's program
         -Mills's forthcoming action

     Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
          -Elliot L. Richardson's letter to Conference Committee
                -Administration’s position
                      -Possible veto
                -Jacob K. Javits
                -MacGregor
          -Child development
                -Possible veto

The President talked with Hoover between 5:39 pm and 5:45 pm.

[Conversation no 622-15B]

[See Conversation No. 15-106; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]

[End of telephone conversation]

     The President's previous conversation with Hoover
          -Killings of girls
                -Suspect

     Crime
         -Blacks and Hispanics
         -Military stockades

     Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
          -Meany

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 5:45 pm.

     Colson's schedule

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 5:52 pm.
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 622-15 (cont.)



     Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
          -Meany's previous comments
          -Meany
                -Pay raise
                     -Connally's comments
                -Possible Pay Board reaction

     The President's schedule
          -John F. Kennedy's grave

     Kennedy
         -Assassination
              -Edward M. Kennedy
                    -Photograph at gravesite
              -Connally's previous press conference

     National economy
          -David M. Kennedy
          -Connally
                -Press comments
                -Answers at press conference
                     -Mexico
                     -Compared with the Vice President

     Paul N. McCloskey
          -The Vice President's comments
               -McCloskey’s response

     The Vice President
          -Statement in Chicago regarding welfare recipients
                -Rose Mary Woods
                -Quip
                     -Gag writer

Colson entered at 5:52 pm.

                -Calls to Ehrlichman
                -Press coverage
                      -Mike Royko's column
                                               20

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 622-15 (cont.)


     The President's schedule
          -Morton and Ehrlichman

Ehrlichman left at an unknown time before 6:13 pm.

          -Connally

     National economy
          -The President's program
                -Haldeman
                -Shultz's view
                -Sanctions
                -Pay Board
                     -Congress
                     -Wage settlements
                     -The President’s view
          -Inflation
                -Productivity
          -Consumer Price Index [CPI]
          -The President's program
          -Stock market performance
                -Connally's press conference

     AFL-CIO convention
         -Schedule
              -The President
              -Meany
              -Jerry Lewis
              -Jackson

     Pending legislation
          -Tax Bill
               -Possible veto
               -Forthcoming vote
                      -The President's conversation with MacGregor

     AFL-CIO convention
         -Schedule
              -Hubert H. Humphrey
              -Jackson and Muskie
              -Adjournment
                                          21

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 622-15 (cont.)


        -James Suffridge's conversation with Colson
             -Internal dissention
        -The President's previous speech
             -Press coverage
                   -AP
                   -News magazines
                         -Time and Newsweek
                         -Photographs
                               -The President compared to Meany
                   -Publics relations
                         -Citizens for a New Prosperity
                   -Washington Star
                         -Editorial
                         -Richard (“Dick”) Wilson and David Lawrence
             -Liberals' possible charges
                   -Humphrey's previous statement
             -Press coverage
                   -New York Times's calls to White House staff
                         -Two individuals in Herbert G. Klein's office
                   -Scali
                   -Kenneth W. Clawson and Victor Riesel
                         -Forthcoming columns
                   -William L. Safire, Scali and Ronald L. Ziegler

Polls
        -Albert E. Sindlinger
             -Press conference
                   -Wage and price freeze
                   -The President's program on national economy
                   -Meany
        -Opinion Research Center [ORC]

The President's previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
     -Liberals' possible charges
          -White House response
                 -James D. Hodgson
                       -Television appearance
          -Prospects of success
          -Colson's conversation with unknown man
                 -Unknown man's daughter
          -Riesel's column
                                              22

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 622-15 (cont.)


                      -Labor's views on the President's speech
                -Liberals' possible charges
                      -Colson's conversation with Javits
                -White House follow-up on Meany
                      -Connally's views
                      -Shultz
                -Meany
                      -Colson’s view
                -Television
                -Telegrams
                      -John P. Lomenzo
                -Polls
                      -New Yorkers
                      -Harris
                      -Sindlinger
                -Popular reaction
                -Connally's previous comment on Meany

     The Vice President
          -The President’s view
          -Comment on McCloskey
               -Christine Jorgenson
               -Benedict Arnold
          -Comment regarding football team

     Tax bill
          -Telephone call from MacGregor

MacGregor talked with the President between 6:13 pm and 6:15 pm.

[Conversation No. 622-15C]

[See Conversation No. 15-107]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Tax Bill
          -Previous vote
               -Charles McC. Mathias and Clifford P. Case
               -Mathias, Case and Richard S. Schweiker
          -Possible House action
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                         Conv. No. 622-15 (cont.)


     -Campaign financing
         -Democrats' actions
         -Columnists' reaction
         -The President’s view
         -Effect
              -Black
              -George C. Wallace
              -Connally's views
         -Two-party system
              -Compared with France

Labor leaders' support for the President
     -Meany
     -Frank E. Fitzsimmons and I[lworth] W[ilbur] Abel
     -Muskie and Humphrey
     -Donald F. Rodgers's call to Colson
          -Peter J. Brennan

Previous speech to AFL-CIO convention
     -The President’s view
     -White House follow-up
     -Polls
           -Sindlinger

National economy
     -Connally's views
     -Council of Economic Advisors [CEA] report
     -Burns
           -Forthcoming meeting with the President
                -International monetary system
                -Money supply
     -The President’s view
     -Meeting with Shultz
     -Compared with Shultz and Connally
     -Colson’s view
     -Letter from the President

The Vice President
     -Speech in Los Angeles
          -Democratic candidates for presidency
                -Humphrey
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 622-15 (cont.)


                     -Muskie
                     -Kennedy
                -The President’s view
                -Christine Jorgenson remark
                     -Effect on campaign
                -Connally
                -The President
                     -Dwight D. Eisenhower
           -Schedule
           -Meany

Rose Mary Woods and Manolo Sanchez entered and Colson left at 6:30 pm.


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The President et al. left at an unknown time before 6:32 pm.