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Start Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1971 9:29 PM

End Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1971 10:14 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")[Unknown person(s)]Bull, Stephen B.Woods, Rose Mary

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:07:32

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:51:41

604a.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 27, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), Stephen B. Bull, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:29 pm to 6:14 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 604-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 604-9

Date: October 27, 1971
Time: 5:29 pm - 6:14 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Charles W. Colson and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Economy
         -Pay Board
              -Alternates for members of Board
              -George Meany
              -George P. Shultz
              -Meany

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 5:29 pm.

     The President's schedule

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 6:14 pm.

     Economy
         -Pay Board
              -Meany
              -Shultz
              -Donald H. Rumsfeld
              -James D. Hodgson
         -The President's previous meeting
              -John B. Connally
                    -Taxes
                                         12

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 604-9 (cont.)


                      -Caspar W. Weinberger
                -Balanced budget
           -Raising taxes
                -Business community

Education
    -Parochial schools
          -Connally
          -Domestic Council's opinion
                 -Melinda Maury and Edwin L. Harper
          -Private education
    -Polls
    -John N. Mitchell
          -School construction
    -Property tax
          -US Steel
          -Home owners
    -Political issues
    -Aid to parochial schools
          -Catholics
          -Harper
          -Connally, John D. Ehrlichman, Shultz
                 -Revenue sharing
                 -Government reorganization
                 -Welfare reform
                       -Political support
          -Political consideration
                 -Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Illinois, New Jersey, California
                 -Supreme Court brief
                       -Pennsylvania case
                       -Bible belt reaction
                       -Central Pennsylvania
                 -Pennsylvania
                       -Public school system
                 -Oklahoma
                       -William F. (“Billy”) Graham
                 -Catholics
                       -Graham
                       -Norman Vincent Peale
          -Political impact
                 -Patrick J. Buchanan and Colson
                                        13

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                             Conv. No. 604-9 (cont.)


                     -The President as Protestant
                     -The President's opponent as Catholic
                           -Edmund S. Muskie
                           -Edward M. Kennedy
                                 -John F. Kennedy
                     -Terence Cardinal Cooke
                     -John Cardinal Krol
          -Revenue sharing
               -Taxes
          -Domestic Council
               -Ehrlichman
                     -Revenue sharing
                     -Political impact
          -Knights of Columbus
          -The President's Knights of Columbus speech
               -Catholics
                     -Taiwan

US foreign policy
     -People's Republic of China [PRC]
          -The President’s forthcoming trip
          -Hubert H. Humphrey
          -Muskie
     -United Nations [UN] vote to expel Taiwan
          -George H. W. Bush
                -Schedule
                -Role
                -Political impact
                      -William F. Buckley's “Firing Line”
                -Conduct of UN delegates during vote
          -Henry A. Kissinger
                -The President's instructions
                      -Botswana
                      -Ghana
                      -England
                      -France
                      -Italy
                      -Bush
                             -Kissinger
                      -David D. Newsom
                      -South Africa
                                        14

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                          Conv. No. 604-9 (cont.)


                          -Botswana
                     -Qatar
                     -Bush
                          -New York Times
                          -Washington Post
          -Domestic opinion
          -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]
          -Bush
               -William P. Rogers
          -Vote
               -William L. Calley
               -Ronald L. Ziegler
                     -Conduct of UN delegates

Economy
    -Taxes
         -Ehrlichman
         -Property Taxes Relief Act
               -Parochial schools
               -Educational issue
                    -Ehrlichman

Presidential proposals
     -Revenue sharing
     -Welfare reform
           -Daniel P. Moynihan
                 -Liberals
           -Family assistance
     -Progressive compared with political thinking

Economy
    -Taxes
          -Value added tax [VAT]
                -Prices
          -Property tax
          -International concerns
                -Connally
    -Paul W. McCracken
          -Economic indicators
          -Conversation with Colson
                -Public relations
                                               15

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 604-9 (cont.)


                     -Arthur F. Burns
          -Poll
                -Chamber of Commerce
                     -Business men
                -Austin H. Kiplinger
                     -Prediction for 1972
          -Council of Economic Advisers [CEA]
                -Connally
          -McCracken
                -Social Security taxes
          -Burns
                -Money supply
          -Stock market
                -Shultz
          -Chamber of Commerce
          -Polls
                -Albert E. Sindlinger
                -Louis P. Harris

     US foreign policy
          -UN vote to expel Taiwan
               -Bush
               -The President's position
               -Popular opinion
                     -Elmer H. Bobst
               -Africans

Haldeman left at 5:59 pm.

     Economy
         -Domestic Council
             -Aid to parochial schools

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:59 pm.

     The President's schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 6:02 pm.

     Economy
         -Economic indicators
                                             16

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 604-9 (cont.)


               -Stock market
          -Taxes
               -Catholics
               -Property taxes
                    -Older citizens

     Aid to parochial schools
          -Peter J. Brennan
                -The President's Knight of Columbus speech


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Henry A. Kissinger entered at 6:02 pm.


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     US foreign policy
          -UN vote to expel Taiwan
               -Bush
               -New York Times
               -Conduct of delegates
                     -State Department
                     -The President's previous conversation with Kissinger
                     -Botswana
                     -Guyana

     Media
         -Administration contact with
              -Haldeman, Ziegler, Kissinger, Ehrlichman, Shultz
         -Bureau chiefs
              -Backgrounders
                                               17

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                         Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 10/06)
                                                                         Conv. No. 604-9 (cont.)


           -UN vote on Taiwan
               -Kissinger's comments in briefing
                     -Relationship with People’s Republic of China [PRC]

     Kissinger's discussion with the press
          -The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
                -Press coverage
                 -Timing of announcement
                 -Purpose of the trip
                 -Taiwan
                 -The President's trip to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]

Rose Mary Woods entered at 6:11 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -Woods

     UN vote on Taiwan
         -Ziegler’s statement
               -Conduct of UN Delegates
                     -Winston S. Churchill

Woods left at 6:12 pm.

     Media
         -Kissinger's comments in press briefing
              -The President's trip to USSR
                    -Rogers
                    -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                    -PRC
              -The President's trip to PRC
                    -Vietnam War
                         -PRC
                         -North Vietnam

     US foreign policy
          -Vietnam War
               -North Vietnam
                     -Speech by Foreign Minister

The President, et al. left at 6:14 pm.
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 604-9 (cont.)