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Start Date: Saturday, September 18, 1971 2:05 PM

End Date: Saturday, September 18, 1971 2:40 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")White House operator[Unknown person(s)]Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:07:05

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:43:55

576a.mp3

576b.mp3

576c.mp3

576d.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 18, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:05 am to 10:40 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 576-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 576-5

Date: September 18, 1971
Time: 10:05 am - 10:40 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. Haldeman.

     Clifford M. Hardin
           -Cost of living [COLC] meeting
                -Conversation with Haldeman
           -Reaction to Walter J. Hickel's book
                -Possible book by Hardin
                       -Support for the President
                                               3

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 576-5 (cont.)


                            -Cabinet compared to private role
                      -Financial assistance in publication
                      -Patrick J. Buchanan's writing assistance

The White House operator talked with the President at 10:01 am.

[Conversation No. 576-5A]

[See Conversation No. 9-74]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Hardin
          -Book compared with article option
              -Hickel

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 10:01 am and
10:05 am.

[Conversation No. 576-5B]

[See Conversation No. 9-75]

[End of telephone conversation]

An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time between 10:01 am and 10:05 am.

     Book
            -Options
                 -Hickel

     Hardin
          -Departure from post of Secretary of Agriculture

     The President's public appearances
          -Article about security arrangements in Cleveland
                -News summary
                -Secret Service
                      -Air Force base
                            -Security precautions
                                 -Reporter's facts
                                              4

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 576-5 (cont.)


                                  -Crowd control
                            -Local stories
                -New Republic story
                      -The President's public appearances
                -The President and the press
                      -Letter to the editor
          -Letter to the editor
                -Cleveland newspaper
                -Comparison to Lyndon B. Johnson
                -Source of response
                      -Ronald L. Ziegler
                      -John D. Ehrlichman
                      -Member of Congress
                -Presidential security in crowds
                      -Control
                      -Assassinations
                            -[John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy]
                      -New Republic article
                            -Demonstration
                      -Disruptions
                            -Airport
          -Attraction of crowds to the President
                -Reaction of opponents
          -Republican investigation of air base incident
                -Responsibility
                      -White House advance men, airport security personnel

The White House operator talked with the President at 10:05 am.

[Conversation No. 576-5C]

[See Conversation No. 9-76]

[End of telephone conversation]

     The President's press conference
          -Edmund S. Muskie's Vice Presidency statement
               -Joseph McCaffrey
               -Cue allegation
               -Questions
               -Wire services
                                               5

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 576-5 (cont.)


               -Column
          -Muskie
               -Follow-up statement on Vice Presidential candidate
               -Reactions to Muskie
                     -Press support for Edward M. Kennedy, George S. McGovern
               -Appeal
                     -The South
          -Possible Edward Kennedy-Wilbur D. Mills candidacy

The White House operator talked with the President at an unknown time between 10:05 am and
10:39 am.

[Conversation No. 576-5D]

[See Conversation No. 9-77]

[End of telephone conversation]

     1972 Presidential race
          -Speculation
               -Muskie

     Pentagon Papers
          -Effects of exposure
               -Democrats
          -Response
               -Charles W. Colson
               -Ehrlichman
               -Henry A. Kissinger's concerns

     Presidential election
          -Muskie’s Vice President statement
                -Edward W. Brooke
                       -Social implications


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 8m 28s ]
                                              6

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 576-5 (cont.)




END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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    Fundraising and campaign practices
         -Herbert W. Kalmbach
               -As money raiser
         -Distribution of funds
         -George C. Wallace
         -Eugene J. McCarthy
         -Effects of third party candidates
         -Congressional races
         -Norris Poulson
               -Number of opponents
         -McCarthy
         -Black candidates
         -Results and effects

    The press
         -Peter A. Lisagor
               -Editorial
                     -Congress
         -Editorials
               -Chicago Sun-Times, Miami Herald, Philadelphia Inquirer
         -Liberals
         -Lisagor
               -Article on Oval Office press conference
                     -News summary

    Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
          -Daniel Shorr
          -Mary McGrory
          -J. Edgar Hoover and the Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
                -FBI investigation of Shorr
                     -Investigation at Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                           -Shorr's colleagues
                           -Buchanan's view
                                 -Apparent hiring of Shorr
                                                7

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 576-5 (cont.)


          -FBI

     Supreme Court appointment
          -John N. Mitchell
                -Call to Haldeman
          -John M. Harlan
          -William French Smith as choice
                -Law firm
                      -Senior partner role
                      -Comparison to Harlan
                      -Board of Regents role
                      -Ronald W. Reagan
                      -California
                      -Jean Webb Smith
                            -George Vaughn
                            -Activism in civic affairs
                            -Official position with Junior League
                            -Support for the President
          -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
                -Busing
                -Mitchell

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:05 am.

     President’s schedule
          -Mitchell

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:40 am.

     Supreme Court appointments
          -Views of potential nominees on issues
               -Busing
               -Forced integration of housing
               -Mitchell
                     -Richard H. Poff
                          -American Bar Association [ABA]
                          -Confirmation
          -Replacement of Hugo L. Black
               -Southerner
          -1972 election
               -Four judges named by the President
                                               8

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 576-5 (cont.)


                     -Potter Stewart
                     -Harlan
                     -William O. Douglas
                     -Thurgood Marshall
                     -Black

     The President's schedule
          -Ehrlichman's location
          -Ehrlichman and Weinberger
                -Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] extension
                      -Herbert Stein, and Maurice H. Stans
                           -Bills on small business
          -Ehrlichman, Weinberger, George P. Shultz
                -Personnel cuts

     Supreme Court appointment
          -Frederic V. Malek
                -Recommendation on Southern lawyer
                     -Conservative, busing view
          -Issues
                -Housing
                -Busing
                     -North

     Unknown issue
         -Press coverage
              -Strike
              -Press conference

The President and Haldeman left at 10:40 am.