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Start Date: Friday, September 10, 1971 4:58 PM

End Date: Friday, September 10, 1971 6:05 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)[Unknown person(s)]United States Secret Service agentsHaldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:17:32

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:21:02

569a.mp3

569b.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), United States Secret Service agents, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:58 pm to 2:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 569-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 569-11

Date: September 10, 1971
Time: 12:58 pm - 2:05 pm
Location: Oval Office
                                             20

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 569-9 (cont.)


The President met with an unknown person; Secret Service agents were present at the beginning
of the meeting.

The unknown person and agents left and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 12:59 pm.

     The President's September 9, 1971 speech draft
          -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
          -John B. Connally
                -Memo sent via Dex telecopier
                -Texas
                      -Connally's office
          -Cost of Living Council [COLC]
                -William L. Safire
                -Draft
          -Connally
                -First drafts
                      -Safire
                -Texas
                -COLC
                -Revisions of drafts
          -Price
                -Staff
          -Connally
          -Reporters
          -Drafts
          -Connally's office
                -Transmission of text via Dex system
                      -Texas
          -The President's forthcoming meeting

     The President's schedule
          -COLC meeting
               -Time
          -Meeting with Arthur F. Burns
          -Meeting with Paul W. McCracken
          -Meeting with John D. Ehrlichman
          -Meeting with Donald H. Rumsfeld
               -Attendance at Governors' Conference
               -Report on Illinois

     White House worship service
                                             21

                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                             Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


        -William F. (“Billy”) Graham
        -Invitations
              -Congress
        -Graham
              -Forthcoming call from Haldeman
              -Lunch invitation

Polls
        -George H. Gallup
             -Approval rate
                   -Release date
             -Intensity rate
                   -Approval rate
             -Popularity
        -Louis P. Harris
        -White House poll
             -Approval rate
             -Disapproval rate
                   -Reasons
                         -Vietnam War
                               -Troop withdrawal
                         -Wage and price freeze
                         -Economy
                         -Civil rights and race relations
                               -Busing
                         -Unemployment
                         -Wage and price freeze
                         -Favored big business
                         -Inflation
                         -Taxes
                         -Foreign relations
                               -Vietnam election
                         -Welfare
                         -Spending
                         -Reaction to incumbent
             -Spiro T. Agnew
                   -Approval rate
                   -Disapproval rate
                   -Undecided
             -Economic conditions
                   -Approval rate
                                              22

                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


                     -Disapproval rate
                -The President's new economic policies
                     -Fairness of policies
                           -Rates
                                 -Favored groups
                                       -Business
                                       -Labor
                                       -Consumer
                                       -Wealthy
                     -Confidence in the future
                           -Rates
                     -Criticism of the President's economic policies
                           -Labor union leaders
                                 -Views of union members
                                       -Rates
                -Legalization of marijuana
                     -In favor
                     -Against
                           -Rates
                                 -Gallup poll
                                       -October 1969
                -Busing issue

     Refreshment
          -Manolo Sanchez
              -Coffee

The President left and Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:59 pm.

     Refreshments

Sanchez left and the President entered at an unknown time before 2:05 pm.

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:59 pm.

[Delivery of refreshments]

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 2:05 pm.

     White House poll
          -Busing
                                   23

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                      Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


     -Gallup poll
     -In favor
     -Against
           -Rates
                 -Changes
     -Responsibility for busing
           -Congress
           -President
           -Supreme Court
           -State and local school officials
     -Analysis of rates
-School integration
     -Busing
           -Minimum required by law
                 -Agreed
                 -Disagreed
-School integration plan
     -Extensive busing
           -Required
-Ralph Nader
     -Effectiveness
           -American industry
           -Consumers
                 -Harris poll
                 -White House poll
                       -Comparisons between results
     -Improve quality of services
           -Harris poll
                 -Compared to White House poll
     -Popularity
     -Representation of American industry
           -Fairness
                 -Agreed
                 -Disagreed
                       -Harris poll
                       -White House poll
     -Interpretation of results of polls
           -Harmful to attack Nader
                 -Nader's supporters
                       -Nader's influence
                 -Income
                                   24

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. 10/06)
                                                         Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


                -Education
                -Age
-Labor issue
     -Effect on US
           -1967
           -1970
           -1971
                 -Changes in popular feelings
                       -Against strikes
                            -Response from union and non-union families
                                   -Comparison
     -Labor union leaders
           -Position
           -Leaders
                 -Excellent
                 -Good
                 -Fair
                 -Poor
-Labor unions
     -Public attitude
     -Demands for higher wages
           -Produce higher prices
                 -1966
                 -1967
                 -1968
                 -1969
                 -1970
                 -1971
                       -Overall trend in figures
                            -Union families
-Nixon administration's drug traffic controls
     -Evaluation
           -Public
                 -Television
                 -Media
                 -Meeting small groups
           -Public perceptions
           -Uniform low rate
-Copies of results
     -Ehrlichman
     -Charles W. Colson
                                        25

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


                -Labor
     -The President's trips
          -The President's vacations
     -People's Republic of China [PRC]
          -Admittance to United Nations [UN]
     -US military capability
          -Comparison to the Soviet Union
          -US military superiority
                -Importance of issue
                -Maintaining US superiority
          -Focus of issue
          -Conservative issue
          -Public opinion
                -US military superiority over the Soviet Union

Drug control policy
     -Administration's efforts
           -Public relations
     -Ehrlichman
     -Colson
     -Public perception
           -Drug problem unsolved
     -Different approach by administration

White House poll
     -Approval rate for the President
          -Shift of rates
          -By age group
                -Teenagers
                -Young adults
                -Adults
                -Elderly
          -Changes in rates
                -Majority
                      -Patterns
                -Drop in conservatives
                -Drop in liberals
                -Increases
                      -Middle-of-the-road
                      -George C. Wallace 1968 voters
                      -Nixon voters
                                         26

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


                      -Hubert H. Humphrey's 1968 supporters
           -Regional voting patterns
                -East
                -Midwest
                      -Drop
                -South
                -West
                      -Increase
           -Return to normal
                -By region
           -Breakdown of Agnew poll
                -Rate related to age
                      -Youth
                -Republicans and Independents
                      -Approval rate
                -Democrats
                      -Unfavorable
                -Conservatives
                      -Strong supporters
                -Regional support
                      -Wallace

Other polls
     -Economic rating
            -Breakdown
                 -Similar to approval rate
                      -By regions
                             -Midwest
                                  -Decrease
                             -Far West
                                  -Increase
                                        -Lower unemployment
                             -Midwest
                                  -Michigan
                                        -The President's appearance
                                             -Ohio
                                             -Illinois
                                             -Effect on poll
                                                   -Date of poll
            -Unions
                 -Harris poll
                                       27

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


                -Higher wages
                      -Inflation
                      -Current figures
                -Union leaders
     -Busing issues
          -Public opinion
                -Majority in agreement with the President's plan
                      -Democrats
                      -Non-whites
     -The President's vacation
          -Minority
                -Criticism
          -Other polls
                -The President
                      -Democrats, Liberals, and Humphrey supporters
          -The President's trips in the US
                -Increase number of trips
                      -East
                      -Catholics
                      -Republicans
     -Economic programs
          -Approval rate high
          -Union leaders
                -Lack of support from unions' members or public
          -Opposition
                -Democrat Party
          -Public support
                -Unions' demands
                -Higher prices
                -Inflation
                      -Crackdown
          -Administration's action
                -Election time

Harris poll
     -Colson
     -Release date
                                            28

                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


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    Comparison of Harris and White House polls
        -White House polls
             -Increase
                   -Support for the President
        -Gallup poll
        -White House poll
        -Approval rate
        -Gallup
             -Changes in nature of approval


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    The President's approval rate
         -Breakdown by age
         -Youth
              -The President's trip to the PRC
              -Foreign policy
              -Soviet Union
                                        29

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                         Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


          -Economy
                -Employment
                -College students
          -Appeal of speakers on campus
                -William P. Rogers
                -Henry A. Kissinger
                -Peter G. Peterson
          -Materialism
          -Idealism
                -Racial issue
                -Peace issue
          -Ehrlichman
                -Understanding youth's goals
          -Approach by the President
          -Scranton Committee
          -Universities

The economy
     -Public support
     -Unemployment
          -Harmful effect of statistical release
     -White House poll
     -The President's conversation with Connally
          -Follow-up programs

The President's approval rating
     -Improvement
     -Intensity of approval
           -Kenneth T. Norris
     -PRC trip
           -Compared to announcement
                 -Photographs
                 -News coverage
     -Wage and price freeze
           -Action
     -Boldness
     -Leadership
     -Hard work
     -Family man
           -Poll
     -Warmth
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


             -Lack of improvement in polls
             -Press
             -The President's actions
                  -Speeches
                  -Appearances
                  -Public relations
                        -Handicapped

Press
        -The President's public image
             -Forthcoming publication of book [by Edith Efron]
                   -1968 campaign
        -John F. Kennedy
        -Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis

Public relations
     -Perception of the President
            -Leadership compared to warmth
     -Interviews
            -Effect
     -The President's public appearances
            -The President's speech, September 9, 1971
                 -Television audience
                       -The President's demeanor
                             -Podium
                             -Vice President [Agnew]
                             -Speaker of the House of Representatives [Carl B. Albert]
                             -American flag
                             -Ovation
                             -Congress
                 -Public need
     -The President's public image
            -American public
                 -Leadership
                       -Messiah
                 -Courage
                 -Family man
     -Parade magazine
            -Cover story
                 -The President and Thelma C. (“Pat’) Nixon
                       -Cover photo of walking on the beach
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


                               -Newsweek
        -Kennedy Center
              -Tricia Nixon Cox
                    -Wedding
                          -Impact
                                -Television
        -Economy
        -Negative aspects of administration
              -Economy
              -Vietnam War
        -International stature
              -PRC trip
                    -Haldeman's conversation with Kissinger
                          -Interest by others in visiting the PRC
              -Kissinger
              -Soviet Union
                    -Summit announcement
                          -Timing
                                -Impact on public opinion

The President's supporters
     -Opponents

Cabinet members
     -Spokesman roles for the administration
          -George W. Romney
               -Work for administration
          -Lenore L. Romney
          -Romney
          -John A. Volpe
          -Connally
          -Rogers
          -Use of the President's supporters

Polls
        -Elections
        -Henry M. ("Scoop") Jackson
             -Vietnam election
             -Motives
                                           32

                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


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[Duration: 58s ]


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    Wilbur D. Mills

    The press
         -Media events
              -The PRC
              -Soviet Union
              -Press conferences
         -Presentation of campaigns
              -1968 campaign
                    -1968 convention
                          -Acceptance speech
                    -Substantial lead
                          -Democrats
                    -Bombing halt in Vietnam
                    -Media
                          -Effect on campaign
                    -Travels
                    -Bombing halt
                    -Telethons
                    -Television
                    -South Vietnam
                          -Nguyen Van Thieu
                          -Bombing halt
                          -Kissinger
                          -Lyndon B. Johnson
                               -Bombing halt

    The President's schedule
         -Japanese visitors
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 569-11 (cont.)


          -William F. (“Billy”) Graham

The President and Haldeman left at 2:05 pm..