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Start Date: Saturday, July 3, 1971 2:41 PM

End Date: Saturday, July 3, 1971 3:53 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Sanchez, ManoloSanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:52:09

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:52:15

536a.mp3

536b.mp3

536c.mp3

NARA Description:

On July 3, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and Manolo Sanchez and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:41 am and 11:53 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 536-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 536-16

Date: July 3, 1971
Time: Unknown between 10:41 am and 11:53 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

     Weather

     Speechwriters
          -John K. Andrews, Jr.
               -William L. Safire, Raymond K. Price, Jr., [Forename unknown] Cooke
               -Youth
               -Sense of humor
               -Admiration for the President
               -Perception of people
                     -The President’s handling of receiving line
                     -Comparison to Ronald L. Ziegler
                     -The President’s meeting with Young Men’s Christian Association
                           [YMCA] members
               -July 3, 1971 speech draft compared to Safire’s draft
               -Background
                     -St. Louis
                     -Christian Scientist
                           -Principia College
                           -”Adventure Unlimited”
                                 -John K. (“Cap”) Andrews
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                                 -Haldeman’s children
                                 -John D. Ehrlichman
               -Previous role on Ziegler’s staff
                     -Ehrlichman
          -Catholic priest speechwriter
               -[Reverend John J. McLaughlin?]
          -[Douglas L.?] Hallett
               -Analysis of Pentagon Papers case                    Conv. No. 536-16 (cont.)
                     -Patrick J. Buchanan
                            -Charles W. Colson

     Photograph
          -Removal of sculpture
               -Abney [Surname unknown], Leonard Garment
          -”Fourth of July” present

[Pause]

     Government personnel
         -The President’s meeting with Colson
              -Bureau of Labor Statistics [BLS]
                    -”Goldstein” [Leon Greenberg]
                    -Call from Frederic V. Malek
                    -Jews
         -Jews within the federal bureaucracy
              -Supervision
              -Loyalty issue
                    -Henry A. Kissinger, Garment, Safire
                    -Morton H. Halperin
                    -Kissinger’s non-Jewish staff
                          -White House secretaries, General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                          -William A. K. (“Tony”) Lake
                          -David R. Young, Jr.
                                -Work with the National Security Council [NSC] staff
                                     -Kissinger
                    -Lawrence S. Eagleburger
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******************************************************************************

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Privacy]
[Duration: 4s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1                                            Conv. No. 536-16 (cont.)

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                      -Kissinger’s treatment of staff

     Helicopter

The President left and Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:41 am

     Weather

The President entered and Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:53 pm

     July 3, 1971 National Archives speech
           -Amount of time allotted for the President
                -Carl B. Albert, Warren E. Burger
           -Tempo of reading speeches in presentation
                -Haldeman, Ehrlichman
                -Emphasis
                -Comparison to Lyndon B. Johnson
           -Transcripts of speeches
                -New York Times
           -Repetition of lines in Presidential speeches
                -Price, Safire
           -Compared to past Presidential speeches
                -Hallett’s view
           -Public reaction

     Federal personnel
          -Jews in government jobs
          -Executive pay level
                -President’s reservations
                -Ehrlichman
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               -George P. Shultz
               -Government reorganization plan
               -John B. Connally
               -Pay raises
                     -Shultz
                     -White House staff salaries
               -Treasury Department
               -Office of Management and Budget [OMB]                Conv. No. 536-16 (cont.)
                     -Creation of new position
                           -Shultz
               -Arthur F. Burns
          -White House staff
               -John C. Whitaker
                     -Work
                     -Loyalty
                     -Ehrlichman
                     -The new National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
                     -Domestic Council
                           -Peace Corps, Volunteers in Service to America [VISTA], Upward
                                Bound, HeadStart, ACTION
               -The President’s programs
                     -Spending of money by Republicans
               -Need to promote domestic programs

     Trade
          -Peter G. Peterson
                -Way of publicly handling issue
                     -Connally
                -”Goldstein”
                -Trustworthy

An unknown man [Stephen B. Bull?] entered at 11:25 am

     Request to adjust clock
         -Correct time

The unknown man [Bull?] left at an unknown time before 11:26 am

     Pentagon Papers case
          -Colson
          -Possible Presidential statement
               -First Amendment constitutional rights
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     -Journalistic action which may endanger lives of US prisoners of war [POWs]
            in South Vietnam
            -Risk of American lives
                  -The President’s responsibility
     -Journalistic standards
     -Setting
            -Colson’s recommendation
            -Press conference                              Conv. No. 536-16 (cont.)
            -The President’s Kansas City speech
            -The President’s schedule
            -Television coverage
-Feasibility of statement by the President
-Press coverage
     -Dean Rusk
     -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] broadcast
            -Supreme Court decision
                  -James B. (“Scotty”) Reston, Phil Geylen
                       -Reaction to court ruling
            -Rusk
                  -Johnson and John F. Kennedy administrations’ focus
-Public opinion survey
-Daniel Ellsberg
     -Reaction of Buchanan’s staff
     -Appearance
-Public opinion
     -Frequency of polls
            -Effect on White House staff
     -Question on Ellsberg
     -Buchanan
-Man associated with Murray M. Chotiner [Seymour Freidin?]
     -Reactions by Democratic presidential contenders
            -Edmund S. Muskie
            -Hubert H. Humphrey
            -Harold E. Hughes
            -Muskie
                  -J. William Fulbright
            -George S. McGovern
                  -Kennedy-Johnson administration responsibility
            -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                  -Republicans
                       -Possible Machiavellian actions
                  -Kennedy’s actions in Vietnam
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                                -Limitation of Johnson’s actions
                          -Humphrey, Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
                          -Clark M. Clifford
                          -Republicans
                          -Analogy to post-World War II leak
                                -James W. Byrnes’ reaction
                                     -Ernest Bevan
                                     -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
                                                                     Conv.[USSR]
                                                                            No. 536-16 (cont.)
                                     -France
                     -Timing of poll

     Public opinion polls
          -Timing problem over July 4th holiday weekend

     Pentagon Papers case
          -Possible statement by the President
               -Effectiveness
          -Prosecution of Ellsberg
          -Public opinion
               -Effect of television
               -Connally
                      -Texas and the Southwest
               -Lack of personal effect of issue
                      -Reaction to Vietnam War
                           -Buchanan
                           -Widespread public desire for withdrawal from war
          -Weekend polling
          -Kansas City statement by the President
               -Press briefings
                      -Compared to Rochester statement
          -Johnson
               -Lack of response to issue
                      -Rusk
               -Effect of issue on sales of Johnson’s book
               -President’s opinion of Johnson
               -Possible statement on the New York Times

[Pause]
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     The President’s July 3, 1971 National Archives speech
          -Reading copy for the President
          -Pages
          -Ziegler

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 11:53 am

                                                                     Conversation
                                                                     Conv. No. 536-16
                                                                                  No. 536-17
                                                                                      (cont.)

Date: July 3, 1971
Time: Unknown after 10:41 am until 11:53 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

     Weather
         -Day off for staff

     Schedule
          -Ronald L. Ziegler

[Pause]

     The President’s July 3, 1971 National Archives speech
          -Physical arrangements
               -Podium
                      -Playing of the national anthem
                           -President’s actions
                           -Position of Warren E. Burger and Carl B. Albert

     Death of Soviet cosmonauts
          -Release of statement

     Speech arrangements at the National Archives
          -Playing of the national anthem
                -President’s actions

     The President’s schedule
          -Letter
                -Rose Mary Woods, General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

Haldeman left at 11:53 am
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