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Conversation: 527-008

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Start Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1971 7:11 PM

End Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1971 7:41 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Shakespeare, Frank J.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Sanchez, ManoloBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:12:13

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:45:05

527a.mp3

527b.mp3

527c.mp3

527d.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Frank J. Shakespeare, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Manolo Sanchez, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:11 pm and 3:41 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 527-008 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 527-8

Date: June 22, 1971
Time: Unknown between 3:11 pm and 3:41 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Frank J. Shakespeare.
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     Greetings
     Topics for discussion

     Shakespeare's visit to Southeast Asia
          -US Ambassador meeting
               -Shakespeare's attendance
               -Attendance

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman at an unknown time after 3:11 pm.

          -Japan
          -Korea
          -Taiwan
          -Hong Kong
          -Malaysia and Singapore
          -Indonesia
          -Philippines

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:11 pm.

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 3:41 pm.

     Shakespeare's trip to Southeast Asia
          -Purpose
               -Vietnamization
               -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
               -Emergence of Japan
               -Nixon Doctrine
          -Meeting with Ferdinand E. Marcos
          -Meeting with Lt. Gen. T.N.J. Suharto
          -Meetings with prime ministers
          -Meetings with others
               -Writers
               -Editors
               -Heads of television networks
               -Educators
          -Chiefs of mission meeting
               -Clashes of opinion
                      -Japan
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           -PRC
     -Recommended focus for the President
           -William J. Porter, Ambassador to Korea
           -David Osborne, Counsel General to Hong Kong
     -Previous mission meeting
           -Tokyo
           -Focus on PRC
           -Interest in Japan                               Conv. No. 527-8 (cont.)
     -Focus on Japan
           -Emergence of Japan
                 -Economic strength
     -Press focus
-World affairs
     -Communication centers for the “Western World”
           -Paris
           -London
           -New York
           -Tokyo
           -French communications influence
                 -Link to French-speaking countries
                 -Agency France press
                 -Le Monde
           -British communication influence
                 -British Broadcasting Corporation [BBC] external services
                 -Reuters
                 -English language
                 -London Times
                 -Commonwealth link
           -Japanese communication influence
                 -Asian dominance
           -Shakespeare’s view of Ambassadors to Japan, France and Great Britain
           -Topics at meeting
                 -Vietnam
                 -PRC
                 -Taiwan
                 -United Nations [UN]
                 -Drug addiction in Vietnam
           -Walter H. Annenberg and Arthur K. Watson
                 -Appointments
                 -Educational benefits of meeting
           -Need for international view
                 -Importance of communication revolution
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              -View of US in South Vietnam
                   -Vietnamization
                   -North Vietnam's strategy
                        -Laos
                        -Cambodia


                                                           Conv. No. 527-8 (cont.)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 39s ]


    FOREIGN AFFAIRS


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              -Japan
                   -US, PRC, and Soviet Union
                   -Industrial strength
                   -Energy problems
                         -Sources
                   -Rate of spending
                   -Economic sophistication
                   -PRC, Soviet Union, and US
              -Decreased concern over India
              -Malaysia, Indonesia, and Philippines
                   -Chinese minority
                         -Historical problems
                         -Links with PRC
                         -Validity
              -Nixon Doctrine
                   -Diplomatic intent
                         -United Stated Information Agency [USIA] role
                         -Ambassadors' role
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 51s ]

                                                              Conv. No. 527-8 (cont.)
    FOREIGN AFFAIRS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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             -Indonesia
                  -Shakespeare's visit to Suharto
                        -Attendance of US Ambassador
                        -Creation of political institutions
                        -Economic development
                        -Francis J. Galbraith's reaction
                             -Suharto's behavior


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 11s ]


    FOREIGN AFFAIRS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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                  -Japanese aid
                       -Caution
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             -Singapore visit
                  -Singapore Herald crisis
                       -Visit to Lee Kuan Yew
                  -Industrialization
                  -Shakespeare dinner with Robert Strausz-Hupe, US Ambassador to
Ceylon
                       -Skill
             -Malaysia visit                                       Conv. No. 527-8 (cont.)
                  -Southeast Asian neutrality
                       -PRC, Soviet Union, and the United States
                  -Japan
                       -Economic emergence


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[National Security]
[Duration: 1m 9s ]


    FOREIGN AFFAIRS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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                 -Ambassador Jack W. Lydman
                       -Skill
                 -Public Affairs officer
                       -Skill
             -Hong Kong
                 -Nixon Library
                       -Attendance
                       -Appearance
                 -Size of refugee flood into Hong Kong from PRC
                 -Shakespeare dinner with US and foreign press chiefs
                       -Lack of press
                       -Focus on PRC
                 -Focus on Japan as power
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                   -Lack of press
              -Osborn
                   -Japanese post
                   -Language ability
                        -Japanese
                        -Mandarin Chinese

                                                           Conv. No. 527-8 (cont.)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[National Security]
[Duration: 1m 26s ]


    FOREIGN AFFAIRS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5

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                       -Osborn's commitment


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[National Security]
[Duration: 18s ]


    FOREIGN AFFAIRS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6

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                -Taiwan
                     -Taiwan trip
                          -US cultural centers
                     -Foreign Service officers in Taiwan


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                                                           Conv. No. 527-8 (cont.)
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[National Security]
[Duration: 52s ]


     TAIWAN


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:11 pm.

     Forthcoming meeting with Governors

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:41 pm.

     Shakespeare's trip to Southeast Asia

     Korea
          -Army
          -Preparedness of US Generals
          -Ambassador William J. Porter
               -Skill

     Best Ambassadors
          -Graham A. Martin in Rome
          -Porter
          -Henry A. Byroade
          -Anticipation of Spiro T. Agnew visit
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     James A. Michener
          -Wife's background
          -USIA inspection team to Japan
          -Length of stay
          -European visit
          -Japan and US relations
          -Visit with President
          -Mobilization of academic support for Japan and US relations Conv. No. 527-8 (cont.)

     Radio Free Europe [RFE], Radio Liberty [RL]
          -Effectiveness for communication with Eastern Europe and Soviet Union
          -Voice of America [VOA]
          -Shakespeare's view of handling
                -Exhibits problem
                -RFE and RL extinction
                      -Reasons
                -Earlier efforts to dismantle RFE and RL
                      -Cable from Munich US Consul General, [First Name Unknown] Dart
                            -Meeting with Lord Mayor Hans Jochen Vogel of Munich
                                   -Vogel's trip to Moscow
                                   -Dissolution of RL-RFE
          -Shakespeare's expertise
          -Criticism of RFE and RL
                -Consistent with President's policy
                -Political problems
          -Contact with Congressional leaders
                -Allen J. Ellender
                      -Political position
                -Committee chairman
                -J. William Fulbright

Haldeman and Shakespeare left at 3:41 pm.