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Conversation: 519-015

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Start Date: Monday, June 14, 1971 10:10 PM

End Date: Monday, June 14, 1971 10:45 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Woods, Rose MaryKissinger, Henry A.Rush, [David] KennethSanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:44:25

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:11:10

519a.mp3

519b.mp3

519c.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Henry A. Kissinger, [David] Kenneth Rush, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 6:10 pm to 6:45 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 519-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 519-15

Date: June 14, 1971
Time: 6:10 pm - 6:45 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods


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Woods left and Henry A. Kissinger entered at 6:11 pm

     President’s schedule
          -Meeting with [David] Kenneth Rush
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    Kissinger conversation with Ronald W. Reagan
         -Briefing

    Message to People’s Republic of China [PRC]
        -Content
        -Answer
              -Content
                   -Trip arrangements                        Conv. No. 519-14 (cont.)

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[National Security]
[Duration: 29s ]


    FOREIGN AFFAIRS


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    Message from Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
        -State Department role
        -Content
              -Five Power Conference on nuclear matters
        -Delivery to President
              -Impact
              -President’s Response
                    -Leonid I. Brezhnev
                    -Further discussion
                    -State Department role
                    -Dobrynin
        -William P. Rogers’ role
        -Possible outcome
              -Desirability of Five Power Conference
              -Chinese role
              -Preparation of response
              -Nature of Five Power Conference
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                                     Tape Subject Log
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     Rush meeting
          -Rush role in negotiations
          -Thanks for Rush role
          -Technical issues
               -Soviet presence
               -Discussion with Kissinger
          -Length of meeting
               -Discussion of German situation                     Conv. No. 519-15 (cont.)

     Willy Brandt meeting
          -Rolf Pauls
          -Rush
          -Necessity
          -Kissinger role
                -Brandt and Egon Bahr
                -Photographs

Rush entered at 6:12 pm

     Greetings

     Secret negotiations
          -Reasons

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 6:12 pm

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 6:45 pm

     Secret negotiations
          -Reasons
                -Drawbacks of publicity
                      -Soviet reaction
          -Rush role
          -Kissinger role
          -Berlin role in larger mosaic
          -Soviet reaction
                -Mutual and Balanced Force Reduction [MBFR] possibilities
                      -Role of tension
                      -Problems of negotiators
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                                   Tape Subject Log
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German-Soviet situation
    -Berlin as key
          -US strategy
          -Role of other actors

View of President
    -Handling of foreign affairs
          -New York Times                                  Conv. No. 519-15 (cont.)

US foreign relations
     -Location of activity
          -Soviet Union-US
                 -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
                 -MBFR talks
                 -Impact
          -PRC negotiations
          -Vietnam
                 -Public attention
                 -Possible negotiations
          -Larger context
     -Europe
          -US-Soviet Union relations
                 -Impact on Europe
          -US troop levels in Germany
                 -President’s decision
          -US-Soviet Union relations
                 -European fears
                 -Willy Brandt role [?]
          -PRC statement of support
                 -Romania
                 -Yugoslavia
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                                   Tape Subject Log
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    BERLIN NEGOTIATIONS                                      Conv. No. 519-15 (cont.)


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              -Soviet strategy
              -Larger context

    President’s upcoming meeting with Brandt
         -Brandt optimism
         -Bahr
         -US desire for progress
               -Price


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[National Security]
[Duration: 33s ]


    FOREIGN AFFAIRS


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         -MBFR
         -Brandt demeanor [?]
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                         Tape Subject Log
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          -Election prospects in Germany
                -Free Democratic Party [FDP] strengths
                -Brandt
          -Economic picture
                -Productivity
                      -Level
                -Unemployment
                -Maurice Schumann [?]                            Conv. No. 519-15 (cont.)
          -Berlin Agreement


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[National Security]
[Duration: 1m 55s ]


     BERLIN NEGOTIATIONS


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                        -Negotiations

     Rush’s qualities

     Appreciation for President’s time

Rush and Kissinger left at 6:45 pm