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Conversation: 518-008

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Start Date: Saturday, June 12, 1971 3:50 PM

End Date: Saturday, June 12, 1971 5:41 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Cox, Tricia NixonScouten, Rex W.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:21:53

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:39:11

518a.mp3

518b.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 12, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Tricia Nixon Cox, Rex W. Scouten, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:50 am and 1:41 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 518-008 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 518-8

Date: June 12, 1971
Time: Unknown between 11:50 am and 1:41 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman [?]

     Call to Rex W. Scouten

[The President talked with Tricia Nixon Cox between 12:12 pm and 12:14 pm]

[Conversation No. 518-8A]

[See Conversation No. 5-21]

[End of telephone conversation]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 9m 58s ]


Scouten entered at an unknown time after 12:14 pm              Conv. No. 518-8 (cont.)

Scouten left at an unknown time before 1:41 pm


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     Hiring of long-haired individuals
          -Use by administration
                 -Quakers
                       -Draft dodgers
                 -J. Edgar Hoover
                 -”Long-hairs for Nixon”
                 -Meaning of long hair

     William P. Rogers
          -Personal friction as hindrance to foreign policy


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[Privacy]
[Duration: 27s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 15s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2                                           Conv. No. 518-8 (cont.)

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    President’s schedule
         -Henry A. Kissinger
         -Council on Foreign Relations speech
               -Kissinger notification
               -Kissinger attitude
               -Benefits
         -Educators’ speech
               -Attendance
               -Meeting with National Education Association’s [NEA] Helen Bain
                     -Benefits
                     -Background
                     -Originator of meeting
         -NEA group meeting
               -Content
                     -Revenue sharing
                     -Education
               -Leonard Garment
               -John D. Ehrlichman/Edward L. Morgan
         -Follow-up on Terry McGinnity article
               -Call to paper
               -Mailing of article copy
                     -John A. (“Jack”) Mulcahy role
               -Reprint mailing
                     -Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis role
                     -Robert H. Abplanalp role
                           -Benefits
                     -Circulation list
                     -Major General James D. (“Don”) Hughes role

    Wedding
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         -Planning
              -William H. Carruthers
         -Television coverage

    President’s schedule
         -Meeting with Jayne B. Spain
               -Civil Service Commission [CSC] appointment
               -Additional meeting                                    Conv. No. 518-8 (cont.)
                     -Swearing-in ceremony
                          -Benefits
                               -Women voters

    Wedding
        -Impact on women voters
        -Appeal of weddings
             -”Father Knows Best” television wedding
             -Emotional interest of women
             -Television coverage
                   -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] one-hour special
                   -Upcoming CBS special
                        -Total revenue
                        -Total costs
                        -Sponsors
                             -Gulf Oil
                             -Xerox
        -Lyndon B. Johnson standing after wedding
             -Polls


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 6m 39s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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         -Death of Fred Steinmark [University of Texas football player]
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           -Representatives of President
                 -Jay G. Wilkinson
           -Service
                 -Wilkinson
                 -Football coach Darrell K. Royal
           -Wilkinson note to President
                 -Call to Richard A. Moore
           -Letter to Steinmark family                             Conv. No. 518-8 (cont.)
           -Reaction of Steinmarks to President’s concern
           -Public relations benefits
                 -Dwight L. Chapin role

Personnel
     -New writer
          -Status of old writer
                -William J. Hopkins
                -New job
          -Roland L. Elliott
                -Awards
                -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
                -Original interview
                -Strong points
                      -Appeal to Middle America
     -Expansion of speechwriting office
     -McGinnity job offer
          -Patrick J. Buchanan
          -Price role
          -Placement
                -Charles W. Colson’s staff
                      -Use
     -Colson
          -Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin comment
                -”Dick Cavett Show”
                      -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
                      -Background
                      -John M. O’Neill
                      -Left wing

Criticism of President
      -NBC role
           -Administration counterattack
                 -Henry A. Kissinger contact with Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.
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           -Cronkite
           -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew’s attack on press
     -President’s opposition
           -Efficacy
           -Colson
           -Awareness of criticism
           -Fairness
           -Reaction                                           Conv. No. 518-8 (cont.)
                 -Colson role
                       -Economic pressure
           -Mistakes in handling of press
                 -White House correspondents
                       -Herbert G. Klein
                       -John A. Scali role
                       -Drawbacks of contacts with President
           -Treatment of press
                 -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
                 -Acceptance of questions
           -Contact with newspeople
                 -Mamie G. D. Eisenhower
                 -Barbara Walters
                 -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                 -Cox

Wedding
    -”Celebrity”
    -Harvard people
    -Public reaction to disruption
    -President’s trip to Watergate

Administration personnel
    -Peter G. Peterson role
    -Contact with Western and Midwestern supporters
          -Abplanalp
          -Rich contacts
                -Frederic V. Malek
                -Interest in money
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 7m 57s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5                                     Conv. No. 518-8 (cont.)

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    State Department
          -Means of advancing


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
[Privacy]
[Duration: 10s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10

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    Administration personnel management
        -President’s view
        -Delivery of bad news
        -Treatment of “naysayers”
        -Need for good news
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11
[Privacy]
[Duration: 57s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11                                         Conv. No. 518-8 (cont.)

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    Press reporting
          -President’s use
          -Pandering


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 3m 42s ]


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    Arts
           -Opening performance at Wolf Trap Farm Park
                -Mrs. Nixon’s attendance
                -President’s attendance
                -Garment
                      -Recommendation
           -Cultural commitments
                -John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts

    Interest groups
          -Jewish group events
          -Black group events
                -Black Caucus
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                  -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
                  -Charles C. Diggs, Jr.
                  -Financial impact of proposal

Polls
        -Administration standing on help to Blacks
              -Appeal to Blacks and Whites
                    -Barry M. Goldwater                              Conv. No. 518-8 (cont.)
                    -Jewish vote
        -Jewish vote
              -Location
              -Concerns
                    -Middle East
              -Support for President
              -Liberal inclinations
              -Sample in polls
                    -Significance
        -Shifts in poll
              -Effect of Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
              -Effect of Soviet and People’s Republic of China [PRC] initiatives
              -Cotton issue
        -Standing on crime and law and order
        -Pollution
        -Drug problem
        -Support for police

Public relations
     -Awareness of President’s position
            -Department of Justice
            -Moore
            -Washington press
     -Goal for President
            -McGinnity
            -Price
            -Donald H. Rumsfeld
            -Theoretical performance in two-man race
                  -Dwight D. Eisenhower versus Adlai E. Stevenson, II
                  -Johnson versus Goldwater
            -Percentage
                  -Effect
                  -Methods
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    Unidentified social function

    Camp David construction
        -Start order
        -Timing


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                                                           Conv. No. 518-8 (cont.)

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
[Agency Policy]
[Duration: 1m 5s ]


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         -Role of committee
         -Effect on next administration
         -Persuasion of committee
              -Helicopter trip to Camp David
                    -Benefit of construction to President
                    -Benefit to next administration
         -Need
         -Timing

    Removal of buildings from Mall
        -Memorial
        -Use in speeches
             -Ehrlichman
             -Significance

    Assault on problems by administration
         -Cancer
         -Drugs

    Drug meeting
         -Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan invitation
         -President’s role
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    Agnew’s trip
        -Kissinger’s role
        -Rogers question
        -Kissinger’s agenda
              -General Nguyen Van Thieu meeting
              -Vietnam talks

    Rogers                                                    Conv. No. 518-8 (cont.)
        -Haldeman’s role
        -Kissinger’s meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
             -SALT
        -Contribution to conversation with John B. Connally
             -Reaction by others


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13
[Privacy]
[Duration: 29s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 3m 43s ]


Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:14 pm        Conv. No. 518-8 (cont.)

Sanchez left at unknown time before 1:41 pm

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:14 pm

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:41 pm


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The President and Haldeman left at 1:41 pm