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Conversation: 517-006

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Start Date: Friday, June 11, 1971 3:08 PM

End Date: Friday, June 11, 1971 3:56 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Cooper, John ShermanMacGregor, ClarkKissinger, Henry A.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:24:11

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:11:43

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517b.mp3

517c.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John Sherman Cooper, Clark MacGregor, Henry A. Kissinger, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:08 am to 11:56 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 517-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 517-6

Date: June 11, 1971
Time: 11:08 am - 11:56 am
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with an unknown person [H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman?]

     Meeting with John B. Connally
          -Timing
          -Content

John Sherman Cooper, Clark MacGregor, and Henry A. Kissinger entered at 11:08 am
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          -Length
          -Input from Connally

[End of telephone conversation]
     Greetings

     Cooper’s health
                                                                 Conv. No. 517-5 (cont.)
     Paintings of White House

     Cooper’s credibility
         -Help to administration
         -William B. Saxbe

     Foreign policy negotiations
          -Information of Senate
                -J. William Fulbright
                -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
          -People’s Republic of China [PRC] contacts
          -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] contacts
          -General direction of US policy
                -President’s role
                      -Control of “right”
          -USSR and Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
                -Quality of agreement
                -Leonid I. Brezhnev

Manolo Sanchez entered at unknown time after 11:08 am

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at unknown time before 11:56 am

     Foreign policy negotiations
          -Prospects for Soviet summit
               -SALT
          -Mutual and Balanced Force Reduction [MBFR]
               -William P. Rogers
               -European view

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:08 am
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                    -European security conference
          -Administration efforts
               -Efforts in addition to Vietnam
          -Needs from Congress
               -Understanding of process
                    -Effect of leaks
               -Secrecy
                    -Soviet reaction                                 Conv. No. 517-6 (cont.)
                           -Kissinger’s conversations with Soviets
                           -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
               -Congressional input
                    -SALT
                    -PRC
                    -Vietnam
                    -Timing

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:56 pm

               -Effect of comments on talks
                    -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy’s remark
                           -President’s efforts in Vietnam
               -Progress on “big” issues
                    -PRC
                    -Soviet Union
                    -Vietnam
               -Congressional perception
               -Effect of Congressional comments
               -Fulbright
                    -Vietnam
                    -Nicholas deB. Katzenbach
                    -Desire for information
               -USSR
               -PRC
                    -Goals
                           -Strength
               -Europe
                    -Contribution to general good
                    -Reaction against military
                    -Effect of progress
                    -MBFR
                    -Balance of payments
                           -Goals
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                -Forthcoming Willy Brandt visit
                      -Dinner
           -German leadership
                -Relation to Wernher M. M. von Braun
                -School ties
                -Mandeza [?]
           -Balance of payments
-Vietnam                                               Conv. No. 517-6 (cont.)
     -Prospects for ending war
     -Dynamics of negotiations
            -Troop withdrawal
     -Prospects of breakthrough
            -Administration goals
     -Topics of negotiation
            -Prisoners of War [POWs]
     -Protection of US troops
     -South Vietnam survival
-Breadth of negotiations
-Clark M. Clifford statements
-Effect of Congressional actions
-US goals in negotiations
-Congressional feeling
-Need for one voice
     -Effect of Congressional actions
-George S. McGovern
-John W. Gardner and Mark O. Hatfield
     -Immorality of War
-Cambodia
-Laos
-Goal of negotiations
-End of American deaths
-Senate actions
-Hatfield’s view
-Hatfield legislation prospects
-Committee activity
-Regional settlement prospects
     -Cambodia
            -North Vietnam
            -Laos
     -Administration’s proposal
            -Neutralization of Southeast Asia
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     -Objections to McGovern-Hatfield
           -Provisions
     -History of proposals offered by US
     -Public knowledge
     -Effect of McGovern-Hatfield legislation
           -Weakness
     -House sentiment
           -Basis                                        Conv. No. 517-6 (cont.)
           -Lucien N. Nedzi-Charles W. Whalen, Jr. amendment
                 -President’s October 7 statement
     -Compromise offers
     -Congressional support
           -Gerald R. Ford
           -Leslie C. Arends
           -Carl B. Albert
           -[Thomas] Hale Boggs
           -Jacob K. Javits
     -President’s October 7 statement
           -Recirculation
                 -John A. Scali
-Appointment versus actual movement of US
     -Vietnam
     -PRC
     -Soviet Union
-Vietnam
     -Difficulty of negotiations
           -President’s needs from Congress
                 -Clifford
                 -Difficulty of “public” negotiations
     -Relation to PRC and Soviet Union
     -North Vietnamese
           -Fear of quid pro quo
     -Congressional issues
           -Balance of payments
           -Cooper’s trip to Vienna
                 -Gerard C. Smith
                 -Paul H. Nitze
                 -Brady [?]
           -Edmund S. Muskie
                 -Clifford
                 -Cyrus R. Vance
           -Tolerance
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 21s ]
                                                                     Conv. No. 517-6 (cont.)

     GERMANY


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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                 -President’s needs
                       -Consultation with Congress
           -Indochina
           -India
                 -Indira Gandhi and Swaran Singh’s conversation with Cooper
                       -Indian election
                             -US involvement
                                  -Singh’s belief
                                  -Cooper’s response
                                  -National Security Council [NSC]
                                        -Opposition party
                                  -Rogers
                                  -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
                                  -American business
                 -US involvement
           -Kissinger’s schedule
                 -Upcoming lunch with Indian ambassador
           -Mansfield contact

Cooper, et al. left at 11:56 am
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