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Start Date: Tuesday, June 8, 1971 4:21 PM

End Date: Tuesday, June 8, 1971 5:38 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Woods, Rose MaryHaldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ziegler, Ronald L.Nixon, Richard M. (President)Woods, Rose MaryHaldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:56:18

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:10:03

514a.mp3

514b.mp3

514c.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:21 pm to 1:38 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 514-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 514-13

Date: June 8, 1971
Time: 12:21 pm - 1:38 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman


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Woods left at 1:10 pm

     Focus on issues
          -John B. Connally/John A. Volpe view
          -President’s role
                -Drugs and crime
          -Connally role
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                -Economy
          -Cabinet contributions
          -Timing
          -Balanced budget
                -Possible poll
                      -John D. Ehrlichman
                -Great Society programs
                      -Funding
                -1973 Budget
                -Defense cut
          -Poll results
                -United States versus Soviet Union
                      -Use as an issue
          -Patrick J. Buchanan’s view
                -Fears of pro-Nixon supporters
                      -William F. Buckley, Jr.
                      -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] fears
          -Henry A. Kissinger’s role
                -Contact with supporters
                -Contact with John W. Gardner, Council of Foreign Relations [CFR], Brookings
                      Institution
                -Needs for political help
          -Buchanan’s view
                -Defense spending
                -Full employment budget
                      -Chances
                      -Support
                      -Drawbacks
                -Domestic program
                      -Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
                      -Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD] programs
                      -Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
                      -Poll results
                            -Education
                            -Housing
                            -Tax desires

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 1:15 pm

     Previous call from Tricia Nixon
          -Photo session
                -President’s schedule
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           -Timing
           -Location
                -Life view

Time magazine article
     -Atkins’ photo
     -Story
          -Quality                                                Conv. No. 514-13 (cont.)
     -Contrast with Life story of John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
          -Photos of Kennedys
                -Eunice (Kennedy) Shriver
                -Pat Lawford
                      -Outfit
                -Quality of photos
          -Photos of T. Nixon

Kennedy mystique

Newsweek story
    -Quality

Life “After-wedding” story

Revenue sharing
    -Ziegler’s comment in briefing
          -Revenue sharing versus property tax increase
          -Congressional criticism
    -Wilbur D. Mills’ view

Laos story
     -Effect in briefing
           -Reason
                 -Age of story
           -Ziegler’s comment

Wedding coverage
    -Television coverage
         -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]/Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
               coverage
               -Later specials
         -American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
         -”Specials”
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                   -Patterns of coverage
                   -Reception line
                         -Ralph Nader coverage
            -Magazine coverage
            -CBS special
            -Impact
                   -T. Nixon wedding compared to Lynda B. (Johnson) Robb wedding
                                                                     Conv. No. 514-13 (cont.)
Ziegler left at 1:26 pm

     SALT efforts
         -Kissinger role
         -John A. Scali role

     Casualty rate
          -Melvin R. Laird
          -Size
          -Scali role

     Jacob D. Beam
          -Meeting with President
               -Discussion of US-Soviet relations

     John Sherman Cooper
          -Meeting with President
               -Report on trip

     Other reports
          -Volpe
          -Donald McI. Kendall
                -President’s schedule

     Jacob K. Javits’ visit
          -Kissinger’s role

     Maurice H. Stans’ visit

     President’s schedule
          -Sisowath Sirik Matak
          -General Lon Nol
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                -Visit
                      -Benefits

     Volpe
          -Problems with report visits in general

     Public relations
          -Issues                                              Conv. No. 514-13 (cont.)
                 -Domestic policy
                 -Foreign policy
                       -War criticism
                       -Middle East ratings
                       -SALT ratings
                       -China rating
                       -Scali role
                 -Public perception
                       -Factors in public perception
                 -Law and order
                 -Fighting inflation and unemployment
                 -Revenue sharing
                       -Ehrlichman’s view
                 -Analysis of polls
                 -Buchanan
                 -[Forename unknown] Rocher [?]
                 -Martin C. (“Marty”) Anderson
                 -Dr. Edward Teller
                 -Leadership
                       -”Fighting” benefits
                             -Congress
                             -Labor unions
                             -Foreign interests
                             -Demonstrators
          -Foreign policy
                 -Kissinger’s and Scali’s views
                 -Sucess
                 -Getting credit
                 -SALT benefits
                       -Effects on intellectuals
                             -Bryce N. Harlow

The President and Haldeman left at 1:38 pm
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