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Start Date: Sunday, June 6, 1971 1:43 PM

End Date: Sunday, June 6, 1971 3:05 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")White House operatorFitzsimmons, Frank E.Butterfield, Alexander P.Rogers, Adele (Langston)Ehrlichman, John D.White House photographerHolton, Linwood

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:01:52

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:15:13

511a.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, Frank E. Fitzsimmons, Alexander P. Butterfield, Adele (Langston) Rogers, John D. Ehrlichman, White House photographer, and Linwood Holton met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:43 am to 11:05 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 511-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 511-1

Date: June 7, 1971
Time: 9:43 am - 11:05 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

     Vietnam
          -Casualty figures

     Berlin
          -Negotiations with Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
          -[David] Kenneth Rush's efforts
          -Soviet position

     Chile

     Vietnam
          -Military situation in the Me Kong Delta
          -Kissinger's conversation with General Robert E. Cushman Jr.
          -Creighton W. Abrams Jr.
                -Veracity
          -Corps Commanders
          -Nguyen Van Thieu's Conversation with Ellsworth F. Bunker
                -Possible South Vietnamese troop movements
          -Mekong Delta
          -I Corps
          -III Corps
                -Replacement for General Do Cao Tri
          -Administration actions
          -McGovern-Hatfield amendment
                -Kissinger's conversation with Clark MacGregor
                -Mansfield amendment
                -Cook-Stevens amendment
                -MacGregor's views
                -Kissinger's possible call to Edward W. Brooke
                -MacGregor's views
                -Effect of Laos operation

     Press conferences
           -President's reaction to political questions
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            -Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey, Jr.
            -Edmund S. Muskie
            -Mark O. Hatfield
            -George S. McGovern
            -Kissinger’s views

President's foreign policy
     -Vietnam
            -President's opponents
            -Motives
     -Troop withdrawals
            -Public opinion
     -Berlin
            -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin's comments on negotiations
            -Effect on US-Soviet summit
            -Joseph C. Kraft
            -Effect on Polls
     -Possible Soviet Summit
            -Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT]
     -Vietnam
            -Alexander M. Haig, Jr's and Kissinger's possible comments
     -Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [FIAB]
            -Dr. Edward Teller's possible appointment
            -President's former law partner
            -Admiral George W. Anderson, Jr.
            -Nelson A. Rockefeller
            -Gordon Gray
            -Teller
                  -Kissinger's possible call to Patrick J. Buchanan

Liberals

Vietnam
     -U.S. policy
           -Possible effect on negotiations
                -USSR
                -People’s Republic of China [PRC]

Press
        -Queries
        -John F. Kennedy
        -Lyndon B. Johnson
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         -President
               -Political questions
                     -Equal time provisions
               -SALT
         -Newsmen
         -President's press conferences
               -Kennedy
               -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                                                              Conv. No. 511-1 (cont.)

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               -Alger Hiss
         -Senator Joseph McCarthy
         -Senator Barry M. Goldwater
         -President's abilities
         -President's 1960 debates with Kennedy
         -Newsmen's views of educated people
               -James L. Buckley
               -William F. Buckley
               -Kissinger
               -Dean Rusk

    Vietnam
         -Kissinger's conversation with Cyrus R. Vance
         -President's comments in England, 1965
               -Support
               -Harold Wilson
               -John Foster Dulles
         -Vance
         -Activities
         -McGeorge Bundy
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Press
        -John F. Kerry
        -McCloskey
             -Comments
             -Bombing in Laos
             -Refugee figures

Reorganization                                             Conv. No. 511-1 (cont.)
     -Possible changes at State Department
          -John B. Connally
          -Elliot L. Richardson
          -Rush
          -Requirements
     -Defense Department
          -Admiral Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr.
          -Admiral Thomas H. Moorer

President's schedule
     -Moorer
     -Forthcoming meeting

William P. Rogers
     -Statements
           -Connally's reaction
           -Peter G. Peterson
           -International trade
           -Mutual Balance Force Reduction [MBFR]

Possible US-Soviet summit
     -MBFR
     -Dobrynin
     -Preparation
     -Kissinger's meeting with the PRC
     -Timing of announcement
     -Possible US-PRC summit
     -Prospects
           -Middle East
     -Berlin
           -Rush

FIAB
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           -Teller appointment

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 10:00 am

                -Effect on conservatives
                     -Buchanan
                     -Buckley
                           -USIA
                                                                     Conv. No. 511-1 (cont.)
Kissinger left at 10:15 am

           -Teller
           -Dr. Edwin Land
           -Franklin B. Lincoln, Jr.
           -Rockefeller

The President left and re-entered the room at an unknown time between 10:15 am and 10:22 am.

[The White House operator talked with the President at 10:22 am]

[Conversation No. 511-1A]

[See Conversation No. 4-49]

[End of telephone conversation]

     President's schedule
          -American Committee on Italian Immigration
          -Congressional leaders
                 -John D. Ehrlichman's views
                 -President's meeting with Republican Congressmen
                 -Strategy and tactics
          -Ambassador William D. Brewer
                 -Mauritius
                       -Population

     Senate secret session, June 7
          -Laos
                -[William] Stuart Symington
                -Illegal administration activities
                -Kennedy-W[illiam] Averell Harriman policy
                -Policy of Kennedy, Johnson
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[Kissinger talked with the President at an unknown time between 10:22 am and 10:24 am]

[Conversation No. 511-1B]

     Laos
            -Timing of U.S. involvement
                 -Kennedy-Harriman policy
                                                                     Conv. No. 511-1 (cont.)
[End of telephone conversation]

[The President spoke with Frank E. Fitzsimmons between 10:24 am and 10:29 am]

[Conversation No. 511-C]

[See Conversation No. 4-50]

[End of telephone conversation]

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 10:29 am

     Linwood Holton
         -Call from Ronald L. Ziegler
         -President's schedule
               -Home builders association

[The White House operator talked with the President at an unknown time between 10:29 am and
10:33 am]

[Conversation 511-1D]

[See Conversation No. 4-51]

[End of telephone conversation]

     President's schedule
          -Holton
                 -Ehrlichman
                 -Home Builders Association
                 -Ehrlichman

Butterfield left at 10:33 am
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           -Hoax calls


    Laos
           -Kennedy-Harriman Policy
           -Richard B[?] Russell
           -Symington
                                                                  Conv. No. 511-1 (cont.)
    Telephone calls
         -Purpose
         -James F.A. Cardinal McIntyre
         -Patrick Cardinal O’Boyle
         -Political calls
         -Jack R. Miller
         -John O. Pastore
         -Craig Hosmer

    White House social events
         -Willy Brandt dinner
               -Haig, Kissinger
               -Attendees
               -Arrangements
         -Working dinner
         -W. Clement Stone
         -President's conversation with Richard B. Ogilvie
               -Jerome H. Jaffe


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           -Press coverage
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                                                                    Conv. No. 511-1 (cont.)
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     Press conference, June 17
           -Buchanan
           -Briefing book

[The President talked with Adele (Langston) Rogers between 10:40 am and 10:42 am]

[Conversation No. 511-1E]

[See Conversation No. 4-52]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Rogers


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     President’s schedule
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          -Chicago
               -American Association of Retired Persons [AARP]

               -Accommodations
                     -Blackstone Hotel
                     -Palmer House
                     -Hilton
          -Dinner for Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
               -Arrangements                                      Conv. No. 511-1 (cont.)
               -Attendees
                     -Martha (Beall) Mitchell
                     -Rogers
                     -Nellie (Brill) (“Nellie”) Connally


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                     -Number
               -Entertainment
          -Hufty dinner
          -Possible press conference
               -Television

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:42 am.

     Schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:50 am.

          -Maine
               -Facilities
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Gov. Linwood Holton and Ehrlichman entered, and H.R. Haldeman left at 10:50 am; the White
House photographer was present at beginning of the meeting

     Seating arrangements
          -Photograph

     Holton's schedule
          -National Association of Homebuilders
                                                                    Conv. No. 511-1 (cont.)

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     The south
          -Virginia
          -Handling problems
          -New Yorkers who comment on schools

     School integration
         -Benefits
         -Changes since President took office
         -Obedience to law versus prejudice
         -Holton's children
         -Long term effects
         -White Southerners' pride

     Bomb threat at Virginia Governor's mansion
         -Holton's conversation with policeman
         -Holton's conversation with Whittier Holton
               -Mrs. Holton

     Holton's schedule
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The President et al. left at 11:05 am