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Conversation: 497-008

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Start Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1971 6:14 PM

End Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1971 7:08 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Woods, Rose MaryHaig, Alexander M., Jr.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:13:05

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:56:43

497a.mp3

497b.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:14 pm to 3:08 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 497-008 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 497-8

Date: May 11, 1971
Time: 2:14 pm - 3:08 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

     Folder
          -Meeting

     Cigars
          -William M. Colmer
                -Note from the President
                     -Mariellas[?]
                     -Fidel Castro
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An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 2:14 pm


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal-Returnable]
[Duration: 9s ]                                               Conv. No. 497-7 (cont.)


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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The unknown man left at an unknown time before 2:48 pm

     Guests at Colmer's luncheon
          -Rules Committee, Congressmen and staffs
          -Notes from the President
                -Quote by Albert W. Beveridge
                     -Typing


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 47s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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     Judge Howard K. Smith
          -A message from the President

     Messages from the President
         -Effect
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     Claude Pepper
          -Conversation with the President
               -Archbishop Coleman Francis Carroll of Miami
          -Forthcoming call from Rose Mary Woods
     Archbishop Carroll
          -A call

     The President's schedule                                        Conv. No. 497-8 (cont.)
          -Unnamed Methodist Bishop
          -An unnamed Episcopal Bishop
          -Clergymen
               -Backgrounds
          -Archbishop Carroll
               -Pepper

     Dolf M. Droge of the National Security Council [NSC]
          -Statements in news summary
                -Youth Congressmen

[The President talked with Alexander M. Haig, Jr. at an unknown time between 2:14 pm and
2:48 pm]

[Conversation No. 497-8A]

     Droge
         -Spelling of name
         -Statements of unnamed congressmen
         -Background
         -Role with administration
               -Congressional appearance
               -Ms. Woods, new summary

     The President's previous meeting with William B. Saxbe
          -Henry A. Kissinger
          -Volunteer army
               -Saxbe
               -Draft extension
               -Possible effect
               -Robert A. Taft, Jr.
               -NSC study
               -Vietnam war
               -Prospects
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                     -Wayne L. Hays committee

     Robert D. Murphy
          -Schedule
          -Report
     A report

[End of telephone conversation]                                    Conv. No. 497-8 (cont.)

     An event, May 10, 1971
          -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon's schedule
               -Smithsonian event
          -Rogers C.B. Morton
          -Timing
               -New York Symphony
          -Length
               -Compared with a press event

     Forthcoming event
          -Arrangements
               -Mrs. Nixon[?]
               -Ms. Woods
               -Size of group
               -A pool[?]

     An event, May 10, 1971
          -Attendees
               -Mrs. Nixon, Mrs. Elinor I. Agnew, Mrs. Anne Morton, Mrs. [name
                     unintelligible]

     Mrs. Nixon's schedule


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 54s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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         -Congressmen's wives' luncheon
              -Value
                    -Wife of [name unintelligible]
                    -Previous presidents
                    -Congressman [name unintelligible]               Conv. No. 497-8 (cont.)
              -Public relations
                    -Constance M. (“Connie”) Stuart, Ronald L. Ziegler
                    -Female press corps
                    -Helen A. Thomas
                    -Frances (“Fran”) Lewine
                    -Importance
                          -Statements of congressmen
                          -Previous invitations to the White House
                                -Committee chairmen
                          -Congressman's breakfasts
                          -A Congressman's statement
         -Press coverage
         -May 10, 1971 event
              -Mrs. Nixon's appearance
         -Majorca
              -Robert Hill
         -Japan[?]
         -Germany

    Dwight D. and Mamie Eisenhower

    Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
         -Beautification work

    Mamie Eisenhower's schedule

    Eisenhower's schedule
         -Heads of state
         -President's role

    Washington, D.C.

    Jeane L. Dixon
         -Conversation with Woods
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          -Comments regarding the President's vision

     The President's State of Union address
          -Biblical quote

     Ms. Dixon
          -Comments regarding the President's vision
               -Lyndon B. Johnson and riots                     Conv. No. 497-8 (cont.)
               -Demonstrations

     Demonstrations
         -President's position
         -Jerry V. Wilson's actions
               -President's position
         -Public opinion

     Smith Hempstone
          -An article in news summary

     Nicholas P. (“Nick”) Thimmesch
          -Articles
                -Washington, D.C. demonstrations

     The President's schedule
          -Weather
          -Colmer's luncheon
               -President's statements

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 2:48 pm

          -Carl B. Albert's schedule
          -Albert's appointments secretary
          -John W. McCormack's comments regarding speakership
                -President's current experience

     The President's schedule as Vice President

     Albert's schedule
          -Compared with Woods' schedule
          -An event at the White House

     Woods experience
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     Albert's schedule

     The President's schedule
          -Evenings
          -White House correspondents' event

Woods left at an unknown time after 2:48 pm                           Conv. No. 497-8 (cont.)
    Congressman's wives
          -President's conversation with Woods
                 -Two unnamed Congressmen's statements about invitations to the White House
                 -Public relations
                      -Thomas
                      -Stuart

     Stuart
          -Role on White House staff

     Congressmen's wives
         -Luncheon
              -Precedent
         -Public relations
              -Unknown persons, Thomas, Lewine

     Public relations
          -Needs
          -William L. Safire, Richard A. Moore, John A. Scali
          -John K. Andrews, Noel C. Koch, Kenneth L. Khachigian
          -President's programs
                 -Parks
                 -Cancer
                 -Appeal
                 -Health
                 -Education
                 -Youth
                 -War and peace
                 -Press coverage
                 -Cliff Miller
                 -Outside consultants
                 -Ford Motor Company experience

     -Federal facilities
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     -Ohio
          -Shift to Florida
                -Action

The President's schedule
     -John B. Connally, John N. Mitchell, George P. Shultz, Peter M. Flanigan meeting
           -Purpose
                                                                  Conv. No. 497-8 (cont.)
Federal facilities
     -Ohio
           -Shift to Florida
                   -Purpose
                   -John A. Volpe
                   -Reasons
                   -Possible action
                   -Effects
     -Massachusetts, Minnesota, Michigan
           -Possible shift to Florida
           -Purpose

Research and development
     -Desalinization
          -White House action
          -Phraseology
                -"New water"
                     -Lapel button
                     -Vs. "fresh water"
                           -Bureaucratic organization
                                 -Department of Interior
                                 -Walter J. Hickel, Stewart Udall

Government reorganization
    -Problems
    -Lyndon B. Johnson
    -Efficiency
    -Cabinet officers
    -Purpose

National Parks
     -Mrs. Nixon's role
           -Waldorf
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     Research and development
          -Desalinization and cancer
               -President's accomplishments
          -John F. Kennedy's lunar landing schedule
               -Bay of Pigs
               -Apollo
          -Desalinization and cancer
               -Possible timing                                Conv. No. 497-8 (cont.)
               -Public opinion
                     -Texas, California, Oklahoma, Florida

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:48 pm

     The President's schedule
          -Ziegler
          -Shultz
          -John D. Ehrlichman

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:04 pm

     The President's programs
          -Press coverage
          -Public opinion
               -Democrats, Republicans
          -Compared with the government

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 3:04 pm

     Research and Development
          -Cancer
               -Press briefings
                    -Elliot L. Richardson
                    -Dr. Edward E. David, Jr.
                    -President's programs
                           -Name
                           -Organization and budget
               -Desalinization and breeder reactor
                    -Ziegler's press briefing
                    -Forthcoming package
                    -Richardson
                    -Importance
               -Cancer briefing
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                      -Use by press
                      -Congress

      National defense
           -European troop levels
                 -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield's proposal
                      -Possible briefing by Ziegler
Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:04 pm                   Conv. No. 497-8 (cont.)

     Meeting with Ehrlichman

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:08 pm

     National defense
          -European troop levels
                -Mansfield's resolution
                     -Purpose
                     -Military
                     -European contribution
                     -Public opinion
                     -Ziegler's press briefing

Haldeman and Ziegler left at 3:08 pm