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Start Date: Friday, March 19, 1971 3:53 PM

End Date: Friday, March 19, 1971 4:45 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")White House operatorEhrlichman, John D.Kissinger, Henry A.Colson, Charles W.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:55:54

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:38:13

470-007.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, John D. Ehrlichman, Henry A. Kissinger, Charles W. Colson, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:53 am and 11:45 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 470-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 470-7

Date: March 19, 1971
Time: Unknown between 10:53 am and 11:45 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

     Patrick J. Buchanan’s speech on foreign policy
           -”Generation of peace”
                 -Public opinion
                 -Vietnam War
                 -Possible response by a dictator against US allies
                 -[Arthur] Neville Chamberlain
                 -Public opinion
                 -Defense policy
           -”Brushfire wars”
                 -President’s use of phrase in interview
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                    -Africa, Asia

     US defense policy
         -Disarmament
               -Public opinion
                     -Vietnam
                     -Israel
                     -Soviet Union
         -Deterrent to war
               -”Generation of peace”
                     -President’s policies
               -Buchanan
         -President’s Newport, Rhode Island speech
         -Buchanan’s work on forthcoming speech by Robert J. Dole
               -Effect

     Speech themes
          -New Federalism
          -New American Revolution
          -Press coverage
          -Domestic issues
          -New American Revolution
               -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
          -White House staff
          -Cabinet
          -Henry A. Kissinger
               -Forthcoming conversation with Buchanan
                     -Vietnam War
               -US goals
                     -Peace
                          -President’s view
                                -Importance
                     -Defense
                          -Buchanan
                          -Public opinion

     President’s schedule
          -Meeting with Charles W. Colson

[Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 10:53 am and
11:15 am]
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[Conversation No. 470-7A]

          -Location

[End of telephone conversation]

          -Meetings with John A. Volpe and George W. Romney
              -John D. Ehrlichman                                    Conv. No. 470-7 (cont.)
          -Meetings on defense
              -Size
              -General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

[The President talked with Ehrlichman at an unknown time between 10:53 am and 11:15 am]

[Conversation No. 470-7B]

     President’s call to Kissinger

[End of telephone conversation]

[The President talked with Kissinger at an unknown time between 10:53 am and 11:15 am]

[Conversation No. 470-7C]

     Kissinger’s schedule

The President conferred with Haldeman

     Colson’s schedule

     Kissinger’s schedule

     Laos operation (Lam Son)
          -President’s previous call to Admiral Thomas H. Moorer
          -Haig
          -Military action
          -Army of the Republic of Vietnam [ARVN]
                -Withdrawal
                     -Residual forces
                     -Future operations
                     -Kissinger’s view of operation
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[End of telephone conversation]

     Cabinet
          -John B. Connally’s party

     Ehrlichman and George P. Shultz’s meetings with President
           -Compared with Kissinger’s meetings with President
           -Staff                                                Conv. No. 470-7 (cont.)

     Dr. James R. Schlesinger confirmation
           -Bryce N. Harlow
           -Rogers C. B. Morton
                -Ehrlichman
                -Harlow
                      -Gordon L. Allott

Colson entered at 11:15 am

     Agnew
         -Speech in Boston concerning Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
              -Maurice H. Stans
              -Program on hunger
              -Stans
              -Writer

     Buchanan’s speech
         -Press coverage of war
              -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
              -CBS
              -Administration response

     CBS coverage of war
         -Colson’s view
         -Melvin R. Laird
         -F. Edward Hébert
         -Clifford P. Hansen’s letter
               -Rebuttal
               -Retraction
         -A film at broadcasters’ convention
         -Pentagon film
               -Possible Federal Communications Commission [FCC] response
         -Possible request for equal time
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                -Pentagon
                     -Rebuttal
                     -Use of “fairness doctrine”
                -Armed Services Committee
                -White House involvement
                     -Agnew’s speech

     NBC report on war                                         Conv. No. 470-7 (cont.)
         -Buchanan’s speech
              -Thomas W. Braden

     Network news coverage
         -Effect of White House action
               -Public opinion
                    -Colson’s view
                    -Biases

     President’s interview with Howard K. Smith
          -Colson’s relations with Smith
          -Questions
                -Boundaries
                      -President’s position
                -Negotiations in Middle East
                      -President’s responses
                -Southeast Asia
                -Domestic and foreign affairs
                -President’s responses

     John A. Scali
          -Hiring on White House staff
          -Kissinger
          -Ronald L. Ziegler’s office functions
          -Role
          -Colson’s relations with Scali
                -Previous conversation
          -President’s foreign policy
                -Speeches
                     -Neo-isolationism
          -Financial sacrifice

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 11:15 am
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     President’s forthcoming call to an unknown man

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 11:45 am

     Scali
             -[Name unintelligible]
             -Robert J. McCloskey
             -Possible White House position                      Conv. No. 470-7 (cont.)
             -Colson’s view of Scali
                  -Support for Administration policies
                  -Smith

     Smith’s interview with President
          -Questions
                -Press image
                     -President’s possible responses
                -Colson’s role
                -Press conference questions
                -Role of Presidency
                -Possible answers
                     -Buchanan
                           -President’s schedule

     Scali
             -Possible White House position
                  -Relations with Washington people
                        -John W. Chancellor
                        -Public relations
                  -Media relations
                  -Buchanan meeting
                  -Colson’s previous conversation with Scali


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               -Relations with press
                     -Role
                           -Scope of assignment
                     -Television
                     -Ziegler’s position                              Conv. No. 470-7 (cont.)
                           -Ziegler’s role
                           -Scali’s role
               -Relations with White House staff
                     -Kissinger and National Security Council [NSC] staff
                     -Washington Special Actions Group [WSAG]
                           -Scali’s role
                                 -Public relations strategy
                           -Laos news
                                 -Press
                           -U. Alexis Johnson
                           -David Packard
                           -Moorer
                           -Relations with Ziegler
                           -Scali’s role
                                 -Public relations strategy
               -Possible WSAG membership
                     -Haldeman’s view
               -Relations with press
                     -Television and foreign policy
                     -WSAG
                           -Value
          -Possible White House position
               -Scali’s previous meeting with Colson
               -Colson and Haldeman’s forthcoming conversation with Kissinger
                     -Kissinger
          -Possible White House position
               -Scali’s previous conversation with Colson
               -Kissinger’s relations with press
                     -Ziegler
                     -Scali’s observations
               -Functions and responsibility
                     -Haldeman

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 11:15 am
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     [Unintelligible]

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:45 am

     George H. Gallup poll
         -Results
         -Distribution                                               Conv. No. 470-7 (cont.)
         -Date and figures
               -Approval ratings
         -Method
         -Advance figures
         -Meaning
         -February poll
               -Timing
                     -President’s press conference
                     -Laos
               -White House poll
         -Timing
               -Tricia Nixon’s engagement announcement
               -Whitney M. Young, Jr. funeral
               -”Today” Show appearance
               -Women’s press interview

     President’s “Today” Show appearance
          -Ratings
                -New York City
                -Alvin Snyder’s view
          -Value

     Gallup poll
          -President’s standing with men and women
                -War issue
                     -Support of Labor
                -T. Nixon’s engagement

     Lyndon B. Johnson
         -Lynda B. (Johnson) Robb’s wedding
               -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon and daughter’s television viewing
               -President’s television viewing habits
               -President’s note to L. B. Johnson
               -Effect on L. B. Johnson’s popularity
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     President’s popularity
          -Effect of family functions
          -Gallup poll results

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 11:15 am

     President’s schedule                                        Conv. No. 470-7 (cont.)
          -Kissinger

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 11:45 am

                -Scali

     The President’s schedule
          -Meeting with unknown individual

The President, et al. left at an unknown time before 11:45 am