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Start Date: Tuesday, June 20, 1972 2:25 PM
End Date: Tuesday, June 20, 1972 3:20 PM
Participants:Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.; White House operator; Morgan, Edward L.;
Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:35:16
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:30:42
On June 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, and Edward L. Morgan met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:25 am to 11:20 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 342-012 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 342-12 22 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-00) Date: June 20, 1972 Time: 10:25-11:20 am Location: Executive Office Building The President met with John D. Ehrlichman. Edward L. Morgan -Performance -Cabinet officers -Elliot L. Richardson -Richard G. Kleindienst Education bill veto -Casper W. (“Cap”) Weinberger -Funding -Busing -President's proposed veto -Morgan’s view -Ehrlichman’s view -Richardson -Welfare reform -Higher education -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. Welfare reform -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming meeting -Wallace F. Bennett -Russell B. Long -Richardson -Abraham A. Ribicoff bill -James D. Hodgson -Democratic convention Higher education bill veto -Richardson -Future appointment -Supreme Court 23 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-00) Conv. No. 342-12 (cont.) Supreme Court ruling on wiretapping -Votes of members -The President’s previous press conference -Number of taps -John F. Kennedy -Robert F. Kennedy -Public relations -Possible statement -Domestic groups -Administration actions -Involvement with foreign governments -National security -Possible White House statement on wiretapping -The President’s view -Number of taps -Reduction -John Kennedy Administration -Robert Kennedy -Limitations -Nixon Administration -National security -The President’s view -Public perception -Ehrlichman -Possible language -J. Edgar Hoover -L. Patrick Gray, III -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman -Kleindienst -John Kennedy -Robert Kennedy -Number of taps Higher education veto -Funding -Weinberger -Richardson -The President’s view -Daniel P. Moynihan -Robert H. Finch -Southern schools -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming briefing 24 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-00) Conv. No. 342-12 (cont.) -The President’s forthcoming briefing -Busing -Press conference -President's concern -Haldeman -Hubert H. Humphrey -Edith Efron’s book -Press -The President’s view -Press conferences -Kennedy -Lyndon B. Johnson -Congressional leaders -Press -Timing of Ehrlichman’s briefing -Timing of signing -Congress -Busing -Veto -Higher education -Detroit -Court ruling Swann vs. Charlotte-Mecklenburg County School Board Supreme Court decision -The President’s view -Desegregation -Busing -Warren E. Burger's opinion -De facto segregation -Racial balance requirement -De jure segregation -Stephen J. Roth -Robert R. Merhige -Richmond, Virginia -Roth's busing order -Racial balance -Detroit -De jure basis -Michigan politics -George S. McGovern Desegregation study at Harvard University 25 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-00) Conv. No. 342-12 (cont.) -Morgan's analysis -The President’s view -Original study's author -James S. Coleman -Historical background -Roy Wilkins -Meeting with Ehrlichman Higher education bill -Veto possibility -Ehrlichman’s view -Busing amendments -Deficiencies -Timing of decision -Provisions of bill -Busing -Higher education -The President’s view -Attorney general's opinion Detroit desegregation case -Morgan -Position -Nashville case -Comparison of issues -James G. O'Hara -Amendments to bill -Administration policy -Roth's response -Options -Morgan's position -Justice Department policy -Morgan’s health -The President’s view -Future work -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew The President talked with White House operator. [Conversation No. 342-12A] [See Conversation No. 25-72] 26 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-00) Conv. No. 342-12 (cont.) [End of telephone conversation] Higher education bill -Possible veto The President talked with Morgan. [Conversation No. 342-12B] [See Conversation No. 25-73] [End of telephone conversation] Morgan -Health Higher education bill -Possibility of signing -President's response -Busing -Kleindienst -Busing -Assignment of lawyer Roth's judicial strategy [Detroit busing case] -Final order -Timing -Administration response -Moratorium -Civil rights groups -Detroit school system -Roth’s possible actions -Possible appeals Higher education bill -Robert P. Griffin -Richardson -Busing -Tactics -Weinberger -The President’s views on busing 27 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-00) Conv. No. 342-12 (cont.) Moratorium on busing -Roman C. Pucinski -Charles H. Percy, Jr. -Equal Opportunities Act -Committee action ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [Personal returnable] [Duration: 14s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 ***************************************************************** Higher education bill -Possible veto statement -Richardson -Busing -Ehrlichman’s view -The President’s view -Wording -Judicial review -Griffin -Richardson Stockholm Environmental conference -Russell E. Train's report -White House Statement -Chinese opinion -United Nations [UN] Revenue sharing bill -Carl B. Albert -Possible letter from the President -The President’s view -Prospects in the House 28 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-00) Conv. No. 342-12 (cont.) -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming meeting with Long -Fate of bill -Funds -Welfare reform Welfare reform bill -Strategy -Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] -Lyndon B. Johnson -The President’s view -President's position -Changes -Ehrlichman’s view -Richardson -Democratic platform -George S. McGovern's position -Shortcomings -Position -Shortcomings -Weinberger's view -Negotiations -Comparison with international diplomacy -Soviet Union -People’s Republic of China [PRC] -Comparison with labor negotiations -H.R. 1 as a compromise -Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] -Ribicoff National security -Problems -William P. Rogers -Melvin R. Laird -Rogers -State Department -Press -John B. Connally [Note: The following portion of this conversation was recorded in November 1973 by the White House and played in open court on November 27, 1973. See Record Group [RG] 21, Miscellaneous 47-73, Exhibit 63. There is no transcript available] 29 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-00) Conv. No. 342-12 (cont.) Press conferences -Press -Cabinet officers -Higher education -Ehrlichman -Questions -Format -The President's relations with the press -Response -Public’s view -Press -Intellectuals -Interviews -Formats -Ehrlichman -Benefits -Formats -Richard A. Moore’s view -The public -Location -Press -Views of intellectuals -Richard M. Scammon 1972 campaign -Speeches -McGovern -Staff -Issues -Delivery -Raymond K. Price, Jr. -Ideas -Democratic convention -Delegates -Media -White House staff -1968 campaign -Hubert H. Humphrey -Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak -James Keogh’s view -Godfrey Sperling, Jr. -McGovern 30 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-00) Conv. No. 342-12 (cont.) -Humphrey Press stories -Newspapers -Television -Pentagon Papers Ehrlichman left at 11:20 am.