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Start Date: Thursday, October 7, 1971 2:30 PM

End Date: Thursday, October 7, 1971 4:16 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Moynihan, Daniel P.White House operatorMitchell, John N.Burns, Arthur F.Safire, William L.Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Acker, Marjorie P.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:24:05

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:58:32

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NARA Description:

On October 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Daniel P. Moynihan, White House operator, John N. Mitchell, Arthur F. Burns, William L. Safire, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Marjorie P. Acker met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:30 am to 12:16 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 285-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 285-16

Date: October 7, 1971
Time: 10:30 am - 12:16 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Briefings

     William L. Safire
          -Speech draft
          -Letters
                -Daughters

     News summary
         -Broadcasting magazine
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                -Television viewers
                           -William L. Calley, Jr.

The President talked with Daniel P. Moynihan between 10:32 am and 10:58 am.

[Conversation No. 285-16A]

[See Conversation No. 10-116]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Letter
           -Blacks

     Conversation with Moynihan
         -Intellect
               -IQ
               -Requirement for success


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          -Intellect
                -IQ
                -Requirement for success
                -College boards


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     Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
          -Newsday story
                -White House response
                -Fisher Roland sale, 1969
                     -President’s involvement
                     -Appraised value of sale to government
                            -Army Corps of Engineers
                -George A. Smathers
                -Key Biscayne house
                     -President’s purchase
                -Investigation
                     -William Moyers
                     -Otis Chandler
                     -[Unintelligible name]

     Los Angeles Times
          -Immigration Service
          -Romana A. Banuelos
               -Confirmation hearings
          -The President's attitude toward
          -Haldeman's plan toward
               -Illegal Mexican aliens

The President talked with White House operator at an unknown time between 10:58 am and
11:07 am and asked for John N. Mitchell.

[Conversation No. 285-16B]

[See Conversation No. 10-117]

[End of telephone conversation]
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          -Chandler
               -Income tax

The President talked with Mitchell between 11:07 am and 11:08 am.

[Conversation No. 285-16C]

[See Conversation No. 10-118]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Los Angeles Times
          -Illegal aliens
                -San Clemente
                       -Coast Guard
                       -Contractor's crew

     Immigration and Naturalization Service [INS]
         -[Forename unknown] Rosenberg
               -Los Angeles

The President talked with White House operator at an unknown time between 11:08 am and
11:10 am.

[Conversation No. 285-16D]

[See Conversation No. 10-119]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Rosenberg
         -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] morning news
               -Banuelos
                    -Illegal aliens
         -Raymond F. Farrell
               -INS
                    -Comments to press
                          -San Clemente property
                                 -Illegal aliens
               -John W. Dean, III
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The President talked with John N. Mitchell between 11:10 am and 11:13 am.

[Conversation No. 285-16E]

[See Conversation No. 10-120]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Mitchell
          -Farrell
          -Rosenberg
                -Banuelos
                     -Mattel Toys
                          -Elliot Hamburger
                                -Ruth Hamburger
                          -Possible Federal action

     The President's instructions
          -Los Angeles Times
               -John B. Connally
               -Dean
               -Norman Chandler
               -Otis Chandler
          -New York Times
               -Los Angeles Times
          -John D. Ehrlichman [?]
          -INS
          -Charles W. Colson
          -George P. Shultz
               -Bureau of Labor Statistics [BLS]
                      -Opposition to the President
                      -Jews
                      -Democrats
                      -Colson’s efforts

     Frederic V. Malek
          -Otis Chandler

     Newsday story on Rebozo
         -Instructions for treatment of story
               -White House response
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                      -Comments
                      -Financial statements
                 -Effect on Rebozo
           -George A. Smathers
           -Otis Chandler
                 -San Bernardino Sun

Arthur F. Burns talked with the President between 11:19 am and 11:24 am.

[Conversation No. 285-16F]

[See Conversation No. 10-121]

[End of telephone conversation]

William L. Safire entered at 11:20 am.

     Speech draft

     Burns committee

Safire left at 11:25 am.

     Newsday story on Rebozo
         -The President's financial status
               -1961-1969
               -Net worth
               -Law form income
               -San Clemente
               -Forthcoming telephone call to Rebozo
                    -Haldeman
                    -White House response
               -Smathers

     Social Security

     Newspaper backing
         -1962 California gubernatorial election [?]

     Banuelos [?]
         -CBS
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         -Broadcasting magazine

    Congress
        -The President's efforts

    Colson
         -CBS coverage
             -Cambodia
             -Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.
                  -Vietnam election
                        -Nguyen Van Thieu
                        -Communists

    CBS radio program "Capitol Cloakroom"
        -Hugh Scott's appearance
              -Comment on Edward M. Kennedy's statement
              -Prisoners of War [POWs]

    Kennedy
        -Colson's office
             -Mail

    Key Biscayne [?]
         -Robert H. Abplanalp [?]

    Allen S. Drury's book, Courage and Hesitation
         -Sales


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                 -Reactions
                 -Ronald L. Ziegler
            -Drury
            -Ziegler
                 -Unknown photographer
                 -Ziegler and Drury
            -Herbert G. Klein


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                 -Press
                      -View of the President
                 -Kennedy
            -Press
                 -Drury’s view
                 -Ziegler
            -Look magazine
                 -Excerpts

    Press
            -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
            -The President's relationship

    Drury


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     Drury
          -The President
               -Rose Mary Woods
               -Arthur F. Burns
               -Murray M. Chotiner

     The President's schedule
          -October 16, 1971
               -Camp David
               -Helen Thomas
                      -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                      -Tricia Nixon Cox

The President talked with White House operator at an unknown time between 11:24 am and
11:51 am.

[Conversation No. 285-16G]

[See Conversation No. 10-122]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Mrs. Nixon's schedule

The President talked with Mrs. Nixon between 11:51 am and 11:56 am.

[Conversation No. 285-16H]

[See Conversation No. 10-123; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Mrs. Nixon's schedule
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          -Thomas

     The President's schedule
          -Henry A. Kissinger
               -Departure for People's Republic of China [PRC]
          -The President's rule on blacks and Jews
          -Order of the Sons of Italy
               -Marconi Award for the President
                      -John A. Volpe
               -Emilio Colombo [Aldo Moro]
               -Personal presentation
          -Elmer H. Bobst
               -Schedule
                      -Cancer charity event
          -New York, November 9, 1971
          -Connally and Kissinger
               -Robert S. McNamara

The President talked with White House operator at an unknown time between 11:56 am and
12:01 pm.

[Conversation No. 285-16I]

[See Conversation No. 10-124]

[End of telephone conversation]

          -Press [?]
          -Columbus Day

The President talked with William L. Safire between 12:01 pm and 12:02 pm.

[Conversation No. 285-16J]

[See Conversation No. 10-125]

[End of telephone conversation]

          -Washington Redskins-Houston Oilers game
               -George E. Allen
          -World Series
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                  -Baltimore
                  -Sports Illustrated
                  -Pittsburgh Pirates
                        -Attendance at game
                        -Editorial writers group
                              -Possible visit by the President
                              -Contact with the President
             -Press conferences
             -Speech writers

     Press
             -[Forename unknown] Goldstein
             -Banuelos
             -Elliot L. Richardson [?]
             -Forthcoming White House event

     The President's schedule
          -Al Smith dinner
               -1971 attendance
               -1972
                      -President
                      --Hubert H. Humphrey

     The President's schedule
          -New York
                 -Waldorf ballroom
                 -Nassau, Suffolk and Westchester counties
                 -Optimists dinner
                      -Gridiron dinner
                 -Knights of Columbus
          -Italians
          -Woods
          -Safire

Marjorie P. Acker entered at 12:15 pm.

     Speech
          -Delivery of text

Haldeman and Acker left at 12:16 pm.
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