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Start Date: Tuesday, August 3, 1971 4:05 PM

End Date: Tuesday, August 3, 1971 5:40 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Abel, I[lorwith] W.White House operatorMacGregor, ClarkEhrlichman, John D.Ziegler, Ronald L.Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:48:45

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:24:36

269a.mp3

269b.mp3

NARA Description:

On August 3, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, I[lorwith] W. Abel, White House operator, Clark MacGregor, John D. Ehrlichman, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:05 pm to 1:40 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 269-025 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 269-25

Date: August 3, 1971
Time: 12:05 pm - 1:40 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Busing
          -Texas schools
               -John B. Connally
               -George P. Shultz
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[The President talked with I[lworth] W[ilbur] Abel between 12:07 pm and 12:10 pm]

[Conversation No. 269-25A]

     Steel settlement
           -Negotiating sessions
                 -Impact of possible strike
                       -1959 strike
           -Productivity study
           -President's schedule
                 -Possible meetings
           -President’s possible involvement
           -J. Curtis Counts
           -News summary
                 -Bank and file workers
           -Possible speech
           -Meeting
[End of telephone conversation]

     President's schedule
          -Telephone calls

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:10 pm and
12:12 pm]

[Conversation No. 269-25B]

     Call to Clark MacGregor

[End of telephone conversation]

     Lockheed vote
         -MacGregor’s schedule
         -Telephone calls
         -Notes
         -John G. Tower
         -J. Caleb Boggs
         -William V. Roth, Jr.

[The President talked with MacGregor between 12:12 pm and 12:15 pm]
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)



[Conversation No. 269-25C]

     MacGregor's schedule

     Lockheed
         -Vote outcome
               -Tower, Boggs, Roth, Marlow W. Cook
               -Peter H. Dominick
                     -People's Republic of China [PRC]
               -[Unknown person]
               -George D. Aiken
               -Margaret Chase Smith
               -Dominick
                     -PRC
                          -Henry A. Kissinger
                          -Taiwan
         -President's appreciation of MacGregor's work
         -Cook, Boggs, Roth
         -Petrochemical deal

[End of telephone conversation]

     Lockheed vote
         -Note to Cook
         -Motivations
         -David H. Gambrell

     President's schedule
          -Letters
                 -Gerald R. Ford
          -Telephone calls
                 -Birthday greetings

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:15 pm and
12:20 pm]

[Conversation No. 269-25D]

     John D. Ehrlichman's schedule
          -Meeting with Shultz
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)



[End of telephone conversation]

     Busing in Texas
          -Shultz
                -President's conversation
                      -Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] regional director
                            -Edward L. Morgan

     President's schedule
          -Press conference
                 -Ronald L. Ziegler
                       -Possible postponement
                 -Patrick J. Buchanan
                 -Timing
                       -Mary McGrory
                 -Possible question
                       -Unemployment
                 -Timing
                 -Ziegler’s possible announcement
                       -Trip to New York

[Ehrlichman talked with the President between 12:20 pm and 12:26 pm]

[Conversation No. 269-25E]

     Busing
          -President's meeting with Connally
                -Shultz
                      -Trip to Texas
          -Harry S. Dent
          -John N. Mitchell
          -Appeal
          -Haldeman
          -Ehrlichman's call to Mitchell
                -Texas chairmen
                -Mississippi chairmen
          -Mitchell’s message to chairmen
                -Emergency school aid
                -HEW plan
                -Shultz
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)


                       -Alternative
          -Dallas
                -Connally's comments
                -HEW
          -President’s view
          -Elliot L. Richardson
                -Possible veto of emergency school aid
          -Amendment
                -Congress

[End of telephone conversation]

     Busing
          -Statement
          -Amendment

     President’s schedule
          -Press conference
                -Ziegler
                      -Buchanan
                -The press
                      -President’s location
                            -Old Executive Office Building [EOB]
                                  -Connally
                                  -Mitchell
                      -Press releases
                -Timing

[Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:26 pm and
12:45 pm]

[Conversation No. 269-25F]

     Call to Ziegler

[End of telephone conversation]

     President's schedule
          -Trip to New York City
          -Press conference
                 -Ziegler, Buchanan
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)


                     -Leaks

     Busing in Texas schools
          -Possible appeal
          -Austin, Dallas

[Haldeman talked with Ziegler at an unknown time between 12:26 pm and 12:45 pm]

[Conversation No. 269-25G]

     President's schedule
          -Press conference
                 -Timing
                      -Press participation
                            -Pool plan
                      -Gerald L. Warren
                      -President's trip to New York City

[End of telephone conversation]

     President's schedule
          -Press conference
                 -Reporters' knowledge
                 -Timing of announcement
                 -President's preparation
                       -Alexander P. Butterfield
                       -Buchanan
                             -News summary
                                  -Editing
                                        -Richard A. Moore
                                        -John A. Scali
                                        -William L. Safire
                                  -Economy
                                        -Positive spin
                                              -Paul W. McCracken

     National economy
          -Administration policy
                -Spiro T. Agnew
                      -Conservatives
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 21s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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     Agnew
         -Trips
              -Compared to President’s trips as Vice President
                   -Kitchen Debate
                   -Caracas, Venezuela
                   -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
         -Connally

     National economy
          -Proposed action
                Timing
                     -Connally and Peter G. Peterson
                     -Congressional adjournment
                     -Appearance of panic

Kissinger entered at 12:45 pm.

     PRC
           -Trip
                   -Arthur F. Burns

     President's schedule
          -Meeting with [Emperor of Japan] Hirohito
                 -Timing
                      -Alaska
                      -California
                      -Emilio Garrastazu Medici
                      -Emperor Hirohito
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                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                                     Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)


         -Western media briefing
               -Timing
                     -Unknown person
                           -Possible conflict with football season
               -Los Angeles
               -Portland
               -Los Angeles
               -San Clemente
               -Washington, DC
         -Emperor Hirohito
               -Alaska
         -Possible visit by Prince and Princess Hitachi
               -Japan House, New York
                     -John D. Rockefeller
         -Emperor Hirohito meeting
               -Effect on US-PRC relations
                     -Taiwan, Republic of China
                           -Ronald W. Reagan
         -Sequoia trip
               -Logistics
         -Trip to New Hampshire
               -Nursing home
               -William Loeb
                     -Schedule
                     -Nashua
                     -Manchester
                     -Dover
                           -Problem
               -Nursing home
                     -Conditions
                     -Press
                     -Photographs
                     -Staff
                     -Purpose of visit
               -Bangor, Maine
                     -Arrival
                     -Margaret Chase Smith
                     -Tourism


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 49s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5

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           -Breakfast meeting
                -Speaker Carl B. Albert
                      -Tour
                           -Korea, Taiwan delegation
                -Girls Nation group, August 6, 1971
                      -Albert
                -Republican leadership
                      -MacGregor

[Unintelligible]

                      -Leslie C. Arends, Ford, Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin
           -Television
                -George Putnam
           -New York City
                -Knights of Columbus, August 17, 1971
           -Springfield, Illinois
                -State Fair
                      -Speech
                      -Donald H. Rumsfeld
                -Texas
                -Pennsylvania
                -Southern Illinois
           -Texas
                -Dallas
                -Houston
                      -Apollo XV
                -Busing issue
                      -Dallas
                             -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW] speech, August 19, 1971
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                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                                 Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)


                -New York
                -Springfield
                -Houston
                -New York
                -Dallas
                -California
                      -San Clemente
                      -Robert H. Finch
                -Springfield State Fair
                -Houston
                -Wyoming
                -Montana
                -Wyoming
                      -Grand Tetons
                -Dallas
                      -VFW speech
                      -Busing issue
          -Trip to New England
                -Maine, New Hampshire
                -Massachusetts and Vermont


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 2m 15s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6

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Haldeman left at 1:15 pm.
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                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)


Forthcoming press conference
     -Possible questions
          -Taiwan
                -Resolution
                -Treaty commitment
                -Vietnam
                -Speculation
          -Vietnam negotiations
                -David K.E. Bruce
                      -Willy Brandt
                            -President’s plan
                -Paris
                -Points
                      -Number
                -South Vietnamese elections
                      -Nguyen Cao Ky
                      -Duong Van Minh
                      -Possible answer
          -Kissinger’s schedule
                -Peterson
          -Vietnam
                -Election
                      -Observers
                            -Nguyen Van Thieu
                -Drug traffic
                      -President’s comments
                      -General Tzu [sp?], Ky, Thieu
          -Draft
                -Amendment
                      -Michael J. Mansfield
                      -Kissinger’s possible call to John C. Stennis
                            -President’s letter
                                  -Statement
          -Pakistan
          -Pentagon Papers
                      -US involvement in Vietnam
                            -Withdrawal
                      -PRC
                            -Forthcoming talks
                      -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
                      -Press view
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                                                                      Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)


                                 -New York Times
                          -Administration view
                                 -National security
                                 -Overclassification
                          -Declassification
                                 -World War II documents
                          -War powers
                -US foreign relations
                     -Japan
                          -Announcement
                                 -Lawrence F. (“Larry”) Eagleburger

[The President talked with Haldeman between 1:27 pm and 1:28 pm]

[Conversation No. 269-25H]

     Schedule
          -William F. (“Billy”) Graham
                -Connally
                -Sequoia
                -Briefing
          -Connally

[End of telephone conversation]

     Atomic tests
         -Amchitka, Alaska
                -Announcement
                     -Postponement
                -Environmentalists

John D. Ehrlichman entered at an unknown time after 1:25 pm.

     Busing in Texas
          -Austin
                -Appeal
                -Republican chairmen
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                                     Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)


     Ehrlichman’s schedule
           -Guam
           -PRC
           -Guam
           -Itinerary

     Forthcoming press conference

Kissinger left at 1:33 pm.

     Busing
          -Statement
                -Mitchell
                     -Calls to chairmen
                -Amendment
                     -Elliot L. Richardson, Morgan
                           -Timing
                           -Wording
                                 -Emergency School Assistance Act
                                       -Richardson
                     -Justice Department action
                           -Notice of appeal
                           -Attorney General
                           -HEW plan
                     -President’s position
          -Ehrlichman's conversation with Richardson
                -HEW personnel
                     -Morgan
                     -Dallas case
                           -Federal government involvement
                           -National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
                                 [NAACP]
                           -School district
                           -District court ruling
                           -Ehrlichman’s view
                -Richardson
                -Southern chairmen
          -Constitutional amendment
                -Timing
                     -1972 Republican convention
                     -Connally
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                                Conv. No. 269-25 (cont.)


                      -Legislative process
                      -Republican convention
                            -Platform
                      -Polls
                      -Jacob K. Javits
           -Press conference
                -Possible question
                      -Answer
                      -Austin case ruling
                            -Racial balance in schools
                            -Busing as requirement
           -Connally

     Lockheed vote
         -Connally
               -Role
               -Treasury Department
               -Cook
                     -Peter M. Flanigan
         -Delaware
               -Petrochemical
         -Boggs
         -Roth

     Busing in Texas
          -White House statement
                -Opponents
                     -[Forename unknown] Hargrave [sp?]
          -Connally's trip to Texas
                -Possible press conference
          -Constitutional amendment
          -Court action
                -Austin case
                -HEW plan
                     -White House statement

Ehrlichman left at 1:40 pm.