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Conversation: 246-005

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Start Date: Wednesday, April 7, 1971 3:55 PM

End Date: Wednesday, April 7, 1971 5:15 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Wood, Ken[Unknown person(s)]Woods, Rose MaryEhrlichman, John D.Ziegler, Ronald L.Bull, Stephen B.Shultz, George P.Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:08:12

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:29:54

246a.mp3

246b.mp3

246c.mp3

246d.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ken Wood, unknown person(s), Rose Mary Woods, John D. Ehrlichman, Ronald L. Ziegler, Stephen B. Bull, George P. Shultz, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:55 am to 12:15 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 246-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 246-5

Date: April 7, 1971
Time: 10:55 am - 12:15 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and Ken Wood

     Weather

Wood left at an unknown time before 10:59 am

     Sergeant Karl Taylor
          -Older son Karl (“Skipper”) Taylor, Jr.
          -Family

[Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 10:55 am and 10:59
am]

[Conversation No. 246-5A]

     Congressional Medal of Honor
         -Sergeant Taylor
               -Sons “Skipper” and Kevin Taylor

     Taylor’s son

[End of telephone conversation]

     Lieutenant William L Calley, Jr.
          -Prosecutor, Captain Aubrey M. Daniel, III
                -President’s possible conversation with John D. Ehrlichman
                -Robert A. Taft, Jr.’s press conference April 7, 1971
                -President’s responsibilities regarding final review
          -Stanley R. Resor
                -Haldeman’s possible call to Melvin R. Laird
                -Tenure in office
                -Prosecutor
          -White House comments
                -Ehrlichman
                -Ronald L. Ziegler
                -Ehrlichman
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               -New York Times, Washington Post
          -Prosecutor
               -Calley case
               -Review
               -President’s call to Ehrlichman’s secretary

     News stories
         -Ziegler
         -White House handling

[Rose Mary Woods talked with the President between 10:59 am and 11:00 am]

[Conversation No. 246-5B]

     President’s forthcoming speech April 7, 1971
          -Changes
          -Unknown man

[End of telephone conversation]

     Revenue sharing

[The President talked with Ehrlichman between 11:01 am and 11:07 am]

[Conversation No. 246-5C]

     Calley
          -Prosecutor’s letter
                -President’s conversation with Haldeman
                      -Resor’s tenure in office
                      -Inaccuracies
          -Prosecutor
          -Robert Goralski
          -President’s review
          -Ziegler
                -Background

Woods entered at 11:05 am

                -Ziegler
                     -President’s review
                -Robert B. Semple, Jr., Christian Science Monitor, Wall Street Journal
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          -Press coverage
          -White House comments
                -Ziegler
          -Ehrlichman’s possible briefing
                -George Herman

[End of telephone conversation]
                                                               Conv. No. 246-5 (cont.)
     President’s forthcoming Vietnam speech April 7, 1971
          -Changes
          -Distribution of copies
                -Henry A. Kissinger
                -Ziegler
          -Woods’ forthcoming conversation with Kissinger

Ziegler entered at 11:15 am

          -Changes

     Weather

Woods left at 11:16 am

     President’s forthcoming speech, April 7, 1971
          -Length
          -Text
                -Kissinger
          -Distribution

     Ziegler’s forthcoming press briefing
          -President’s schedule
                 -William P. Rogers, Laird
                 -Admiral Thomas H. Moorer
                 -Kissinger
                 -Bipartisan meeting
          -Congressional leaders
                 -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
                       -Schedule
                 -Senate Whips
          -Messages to President
                 -President’s conversations
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           -President’s forthcoming speech
                 -Possible statements
           -South Vietnam

     Calley
          -President’s conversation with Ehrlichman
          -President’s policy
                -Judicial process                               Conv. No. 246-5 (cont.)
                      -Appeal
          -Prosecutor’s letter
          -President’s policy
          -Review
                -Ehrlichman’s press briefing
                -Ziegler’s forthcoming press briefing
                -Prosecutor
                -Possible White House comments

Ziegler left at 11:25 am

     Ziegler
          -Handling of press
          -Ehrlichman

     Calley
          -Judicial process
          -Possible White House involvement
          -Daniel

     President’s forthcoming Vietnam speech April 7, 1971
          -Television
          -Camera work

[Pause]

     Calley
          -Taft’s forthcoming press conference
          -Haldeman’s forthcoming call to Laird
          -Resor’s tenure in office

     Resor
          -My Lai Massacre
          -President’s schedule
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[Pause]

     President’s forthcoming Vietnam speech April 7, 1971
          -Preparation
                -Final copy
                -Kissinger
                -Patrick J. Buchanan                           Conv. No. 246-5 (cont.)
                -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew’s style
                -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
                -William L. Safire
                      -Thomas Jefferson
                -Kissinger
                      -Editing
                      -Draft
                      -Winston Lord

     Clark MacGregor
          -Kissinger’s views
          -Bryce N. Harlow
          -William E. Timmons
          -Role with administration
                -Gerald R. Ford
                -Peter H. Dominick
          -Southern strategy
          -Kissinger’s views
                -Conversation with White House staff members

     White House staff views
          -Cambodia and Laos
          -President’s church attendance
          -Vietnam

     George Meany
         -Attitude

     Staff

     Vietnam
          -Negotiations
               -North Vietnam
          -Troop withdrawals
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          -President’s policy
                -Ehrlichman’s comments April 7, 1971
                -President’s forthcoming speech
          -Troop withdrawals
                -George D. Aiken
                      -Laird
          -President’s policy
                                                                     Conv. No. 246-5 (cont.)
     White House staff
          -Review
          -Peter G. Peterson
                -Ehrlichman
                -President’s policies
                -Opposition
                -Kissinger
          -George P. Shultz
                -Draftees

     Pending legislation
          -Education bill
               -Possible veto

     President’s forthcoming speech April 7, 1971
          -Phone calls to President
                -Cabinet
                -Kissinger, Woods, Haldeman, and Charles W. Colson
                -John B. Connally
          -Preparation
                -Kissinger’s forthcoming backgrounder
                -President’s efforts
                      -Consultation with Cabinet
                           -Laird
                           -Rogers
                           -Moorer

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:25 am

     President’s schedule
          -Shultz, Ehrlichman

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:49 am
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     National economy
          -Stock market

     President’s schedule
          -Franco Maria Malfatti
          -Council on International Economic Policy
                -European Economic Community
          -Connally                                                 Conv. No. 246-5 (cont.)

     National economy
          -Stock market
          -Economic indicators
                -Automobile sales
                -Views of Haldeman’s friend from J. Walter Thompson Co.
                -Sears, Roebuck & Co.
                -Industrial production
                -Construction
                -Retail sales

     President’s forthcoming speech April 7, 1971
          -Possible effect
          -War weariness

Shultz and Ehrlichman entered at 11:49 am

     President’s schedule

The President and Haldeman left at 11:49 am

[Pause]

     [Unintelligible]

The President entered at an unknown time after 11:49 am

     Congress

     Pending legislation
          -Education bill
          -Possible veto
          -Cost
          -William D. Hathaway
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                -Possible amendment
                -Possible White House response
          -Military pay
                -House vote
                -Cost
          -Education bill
                -Possible veto
                                                                    Conv. No. 246-5 (cont.)
Kissinger entered at an unknown time after 11:50 am

     President’s schedule
          -Laird, Rogers, Kissinger
                -Talking points
                      -Vietnam withdrawal

Kissinger left at an unknown time before 12:15 pm

     Pending legislation
          -Education bill
               -Possible veto
                      -Military pay
                      -Transportation
                      -Urban renewal
                      -Revenue sharing
                            -Possible veto
                                 -Budget
                                 -President’s program

     National economy
          -Status
                -Stock market
                -Economic indicators
                     -Automobile sales
                     -Department store sales
                     -Home furnishings
                     -New York
                -Southern California
          -Stock market
          -People’s actions
                -Confidence
                -Business magazines
                -Washington Post, Washington Star, New York Times
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     -Stock market
           -Administration’s economic policies
     -Business writers
           -Staff, Time, Life
     -Southern California
     -Status
           -Federal Reserve
           -Federal budget                                    Conv. No. 246-5 (cont.)
           -Steadiness
           -Public confidence

Pending legislation
     -Education bill
          -Effect on budget
          -Possible veto
          -Instruction for Ford
          -Education lobby
          -Possible veto
                 -Elliot L. Richardson’s forthcoming speech
                 -Instructions for Ford
          -Possible motion to re-commit
                 -Tactics
          -Hathaway’s amendment
                 -Provisions
                       -President’s policies
          -Authorization
                 -Levels
                 -Possible amendments

J. Edgar Hoover
     -Tenure in office
     -Alger Hiss case
          -Tom C. Clark, Harry S Truman
                -Taps on President’s phone
     -Surveillance of Congressmen
     -[Thomas] Hale Boggs
          -Charges
          -Compared with Joseph McCarthy

McCarthy
    -Allegations regarding State Department
         -Communists
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     Hoover
         -Boggs
               -Health
               -Possible Congressional hearing
                    -Ehrlichman’s possible conversation with John N. Mitchell
                    -Possible hearings
                                                                     Conv. No. 246-5 (cont.)
     Boggs
         -Carl B. Albert’s conversation with MacGregor, April 6, 1971
         -Health
         -Wife
         -President’s conversation with Lyndon B. Johnson
         -Relationship with Wilbur D. Mills

     Pending legislation
          -Education bill
                -Possible veto
          -Military pay

Ehrlichman and Shultz left at 12:15 pm